Hi everyone
So I recently took the plunge and got a chastity device. I got the Dominix stainless steel. I used the thread method to measure the diameter for a ring. I settled on 1.71. When the device arrived it however did not work. Due to the heaviness of the device my junk was just able to slip out.When I say slip out, i literally mean it was falling out. My junk is 2 inches flaccid and this device was way too big with a 4.5 inch circumference. My junk looked like a parrot in a steel cage wrestling ring. I made many attempts to ensure it was on right and it was.
I felt the massive burn here of losing my money and with no chastity. Before signing up I looked on this website and saw another user had a similar issue. Someone pointed out its most likely a ring diameter issue. I decided to buy one on Ebay, which was inexpensive and would allow me to test ring sizes (which i should have done in the beggining, thread method to measure is useless.this time I selected a resin mold one which was 2 inches in total, and had many sizes of rings.
It took me a long time to learn how to push my balls through, I tried 1.91 and 1.62 which failed (junk is able to slip out), 1.52 which failed, 1.42, 1.32, and now I am down to a 1.18 inch ring!
After a few hours practice finally got it on. This time it seemed tighter but again I was able to relatively easily slip out when flaccid.
I noticed when I remove the cage on the 0.18, to see what has happened, i find my junk has shrunk to about half an inch, bunched up, and began coming away from the ring .. I tried the thread measuring method again to visually see what is needed, and the ring needed for me would be way too small to push my balls through.
Im sorta wondering if the 'cage method' isn't working for me. Looking at this its probably still a diameter issue but going lower than 1.18 seems kinda dangerous. Suggestions on if i should abandon the cage method ? Or possible alternatives?
Thank you.
My experience with chastity and issue
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Re: My experience with chastity and issue
1.18" seems...awfully small. There is no way I would be able to get a testicle through a hole that small...and I don't think that I have ever seen a device for sale that has a main ring that small, that's a hair less than 30mm.
I think that something is getting lost in translation here, unless you are truly freakishly small. Could you post a picture and/or a link to the device you purchased? I don't think it's a good idea for any of us to try to give you advice without making sure we're on the same page.
I think that something is getting lost in translation here, unless you are truly freakishly small. Could you post a picture and/or a link to the device you purchased? I don't think it's a good idea for any of us to try to give you advice without making sure we're on the same page.
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Re: My experience with chastity and issue
Right something sounds odd here... I'd be interested in seeing the device.
It might also be an option to get the sizing rings from maturemetal to get an accurate measurement in all places that need to be sized for a device.
It might also be an option to get the sizing rings from maturemetal to get an accurate measurement in all places that need to be sized for a device.
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http://ibb.co/Y8fyvRM
http://ibb.co/0Gndw44
When I purchased them they came with the descriptions of ring diameters 36mm, 40mm, 45mm and 50mm.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/V2-cock-cage ... 3594317434
The way the device works is you connect the ring to the device and insert a lock and then turn it. Appreciate all feedback in advance.
http://ibb.co/0Gndw44
When I purchased them they came with the descriptions of ring diameters 36mm, 40mm, 45mm and 50mm.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/V2-cock-cage ... 3594317434
The way the device works is you connect the ring to the device and insert a lock and then turn it. Appreciate all feedback in advance.
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Re: My experience with chastity and issue
@Shogunronin
You may be incorrectly converting metric/inch measurements.
The device you pointed to is a Holy Trainer clone. The internal cage diameter itself is about 1.375 inches or about 35mm. There's no way the cuff ring is smaller than that. However, because the cuff rings are oval, the site may be giving the smallest diameter.
You may be incorrectly converting metric/inch measurements.
The device you pointed to is a Holy Trainer clone. The internal cage diameter itself is about 1.375 inches or about 35mm. There's no way the cuff ring is smaller than that. However, because the cuff rings are oval, the site may be giving the smallest diameter.
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Re: My experience with chastity and issue
Yes you are right! I had to double check. I wrote the numbers down and had it mixed up with another listing. Yes 1.41 for the smallest diameter ring which didn't fit.Tom Allen wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 12:09 pm @Shogunronin
You may be incorrectly converting metric/inch measurements.
The device you pointed to is a Holy Trainer clone. The internal cage diameter itself is about 1.375 inches or about 35mm. There's no way the cuff ring is smaller than that. However, because the cuff rings are oval, the site may be giving the smallest diameter.
Im thinking I need a smaller diameter ring or possibly a smaller diameter cage? The cage itself probably isn't fit for long term use but trying to find my perfect diameter size which stays on.
Good point! Is that like a custom? I wonder if I could get a custom ring fitted for my Dominix ring i purchased. Either way this is a bit of a problem solving moment which I am enjoying.
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Re: My experience with chastity and issue
Afer some deeper research I kind of found what the issue was - and that is there isn't an issue at all, other than a ring which is slightly too big. Apparently chastity is more symbolic and mental and anyone can just slip it out, but the only thing which is secure is the balls unless you have a piercing which offers resistance to the penis.
It kind of makes sense as I was thinking about it and thinking to myself there needs to be more resistance to stop you pulling out. If someone has a really big penis, the size and gravity will offer resistence, since i can't pull out when hard. Unfortunately for those less endowed a focused 'pull out' is easy on any device, although not pulling out is probably more comfortable. So really a change of mindset was the answer.
Now that I know this info im thinking a 1.50 is probably sufficient. Obviously sex would be difficult with a pulled out chastity device hanging off you, so there is an element of real chastity to it. In the future i would be looking into a piercing and a system which offers true resistance.
It kind of makes sense as I was thinking about it and thinking to myself there needs to be more resistance to stop you pulling out. If someone has a really big penis, the size and gravity will offer resistence, since i can't pull out when hard. Unfortunately for those less endowed a focused 'pull out' is easy on any device, although not pulling out is probably more comfortable. So really a change of mindset was the answer.
Now that I know this info im thinking a 1.50 is probably sufficient. Obviously sex would be difficult with a pulled out chastity device hanging off you, so there is an element of real chastity to it. In the future i would be looking into a piercing and a system which offers true resistance.
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Re: My experience with chastity and issue
After some time of training and adjustment it can be possible to work down to a smaller main ring, small enough that pullout is very to extremely difficult, if not impossible. But that's not going to happen right from the start- I know because that's where I tried to start from and it didn't work out well at all.Apparently chastity is more symbolic and mental and anyone can just slip it out, but the only thing which is secure is the balls unless you have a piercing which offers resistance to the penis.
It kind of makes sense as I was thinking about it and thinking to myself there needs to be more resistance to stop you pulling out. If someone has a really big penis, the size and gravity will offer resistence, since i can't pull out when hard. Unfortunately for those less endowed a focused 'pull out' is easy on any device, although not pulling out is probably more comfortable. So really a change of mindset was the answer.
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Re: My experience with chastity and issue
My penis is 1/4" long after 10 years being locked up. What I found that works is one of the new devices sold at Koala.com and other sites. It is merely a round disk attached very close to the ring. Nothing falls out of that and I have a really small one. The best ring size to get is the smallest that you can wear and still get part of your finger tip under to ensure you are not cutting off circulation.
Chastity cages are not made to be comfortable at first. You have to get used to them. The skin on your scrotum needs to toughen up the same way the skin on a ring finger does. It took me several months of 24/7 wearing of a custom Jailbird before I started to forget I was even wearing it. For comfort you really need a custom made device. My cage used to touch me lightly in all sides and the tip of my penis barely touched the front. I needed a non standard gap and ring size. Off the shelf does not work for me and those cheap Chinese clones are inconsistent in measurements and very heavy so that they pull down on your junk.
I did not want to spend the money on a custom device because I thought it would not make a big difference. Boy, was I wrong. Night and day difference between custom and off the shelf. Exact fit and lightweight. Unfortunately I got too small for it and went through a series of devices until I now have one that costs about $59 and is handmade. My penis is basically being held inside my body so no chance of it coming out. Koala.com also has a device where the cage part faces your body rather than away from your body. No way can your penis fall out of that because it is inside a metal tube which is pressed against your body.
It is counter intuitive to use a small ring. Guys like to use big rings because they are comfortable and have no idea of how much your testicles can be flattened to fit through a small opening. The only way to stop that is by wearing the smallest ring that does not cut off circulation. It is actually more comfortable than a larger ring in the long term because it stays put unlike a big ring which moves around and causes chaffing. Also keep in mind that nobody said that chastity does not require a break in time during which you will be uncomfortable until your skin toughens up.
In the end, no chastity cage is going to prevent you from coming. None. You can see guys coming locked up all over the web porn sites. So if you are self locking, you can still cum whenever you want. The dirty secret of the reality vs fantasy of chastity is that it is not the cage that prevents you from having an orgasm, it is the promise you made to your key holder not to make yourself cum when locked. It still requires just as much self control, even more, then when restraining from masturbating when not locked up. If you are self locking, as soon as the initial excitement wears off, you find yourself as both warden and prisoner. It is difficult for most to continue past that point because you can still orgasm even when locked up.
This is the only advice I can give you. Smallest ring you can wear without cutting off circulation will prevent you testicles from falling out. If you penis is coming out too, an experience I have had a few times, it means you need a different type of cage like I did each time. Do not buy by price or looks, buy what works for you. I spent more on cheap cages than it costs me to get a custom made one. Unfortunately I cannot find a picture of mine that does not show genitals. I found out today that no genital can be posted. I have no problem with that but I forgot since it has been a long time since I joined a forum. Picture a ring and where the cage part is attached, instead of a cage there is just a round disk with holes in it. Look for a device on the Koala site that is listed as micro or that has a better setup than you can get from cheap imitations which turn off a lot go guys to chastity simply because they are not as comfortable as the real thing.
Chastity cages are not made to be comfortable at first. You have to get used to them. The skin on your scrotum needs to toughen up the same way the skin on a ring finger does. It took me several months of 24/7 wearing of a custom Jailbird before I started to forget I was even wearing it. For comfort you really need a custom made device. My cage used to touch me lightly in all sides and the tip of my penis barely touched the front. I needed a non standard gap and ring size. Off the shelf does not work for me and those cheap Chinese clones are inconsistent in measurements and very heavy so that they pull down on your junk.
I did not want to spend the money on a custom device because I thought it would not make a big difference. Boy, was I wrong. Night and day difference between custom and off the shelf. Exact fit and lightweight. Unfortunately I got too small for it and went through a series of devices until I now have one that costs about $59 and is handmade. My penis is basically being held inside my body so no chance of it coming out. Koala.com also has a device where the cage part faces your body rather than away from your body. No way can your penis fall out of that because it is inside a metal tube which is pressed against your body.
It is counter intuitive to use a small ring. Guys like to use big rings because they are comfortable and have no idea of how much your testicles can be flattened to fit through a small opening. The only way to stop that is by wearing the smallest ring that does not cut off circulation. It is actually more comfortable than a larger ring in the long term because it stays put unlike a big ring which moves around and causes chaffing. Also keep in mind that nobody said that chastity does not require a break in time during which you will be uncomfortable until your skin toughens up.
In the end, no chastity cage is going to prevent you from coming. None. You can see guys coming locked up all over the web porn sites. So if you are self locking, you can still cum whenever you want. The dirty secret of the reality vs fantasy of chastity is that it is not the cage that prevents you from having an orgasm, it is the promise you made to your key holder not to make yourself cum when locked. It still requires just as much self control, even more, then when restraining from masturbating when not locked up. If you are self locking, as soon as the initial excitement wears off, you find yourself as both warden and prisoner. It is difficult for most to continue past that point because you can still orgasm even when locked up.
This is the only advice I can give you. Smallest ring you can wear without cutting off circulation will prevent you testicles from falling out. If you penis is coming out too, an experience I have had a few times, it means you need a different type of cage like I did each time. Do not buy by price or looks, buy what works for you. I spent more on cheap cages than it costs me to get a custom made one. Unfortunately I cannot find a picture of mine that does not show genitals. I found out today that no genital can be posted. I have no problem with that but I forgot since it has been a long time since I joined a forum. Picture a ring and where the cage part is attached, instead of a cage there is just a round disk with holes in it. Look for a device on the Koala site that is listed as micro or that has a better setup than you can get from cheap imitations which turn off a lot go guys to chastity simply because they are not as comfortable as the real thing.