Milestone

[TwistedMister]

Finally reached milestone of 3 days and nights wearing smallest ring of CB3k without major issues. The hinge is still somewhat of a minor irritation, partially mitigated with a section of a finger of a latex surgical glove, heavier tubing might be better. Only awakened 2-3 times at night rather than the constant torture experienced the first time I tried this.

On the second day, late in the afternoon, some mildly concerning red marks appeared on the top of the shaft. Current hypothesis is that they were caused by skin extruding thru vent holes during arousal, though I don't recall feeling any arousal strong enough to cause it. On the other hand, I can't come up with any other explanation. Markings are significantly less pronounced today, in spite of several fairly strong nocturnal erections.

I have never been able to 'pull out' of the smallest ring. If this experiment is successful, and a suitable hinged-ring stainless steel (or titanium) device can be found or made, I will have found my 'holy grail' of inescapability (short of cutting off the lock or device). In my opinion, other than piercing, only a hinged-ring can provide this level of security- if you can get your bits thru a solid ring, you can get them back out again.

It has taken a considerable amount of time to reach this point (years) and for a while I was not sure it would even be possible. Persistence seems to have paid off, and the result will be a new level of intensity in which 'willpower' plays no part. 'Choice' will not be a factor and I will be *completely* dependent on Mrs. Twisted to 'let me out'. If no issues appear in another four days, I think I will be able to consider it a success.

[jgalt]

what about when you lube up really well. Can't you pull out then? It seems in my experience wearing rings of all sizes, if you can't pull out even with lube, then it is medically unsafe and cutting off circulation. You KH may want to use her toy one day, so lets not cause permanent damage!

[VinnyDee]

I have tried hinged rings several times and none of them were comfortable even with the rubber tubing. Your statement about solid rings does not take into account that once you attach the cage portion, you only have about a third of the room that you had when you first put it on. It took me two round trips to Mature Metal but I found a ring small enough that is also comfy. No way are the boys going to escape. I tried one night when my wife forgot to leave me the emergency key and it could not slip them out. I had to put up with the intense burning until she got home.

[TwistedMister]

what about when you lube up really well. Can't you pull out then?

If I were to take something like a curved needle (with a blunt tip) with some sort of thin wire attached, and thread it underneath, then I suppose that it might (in theory) be possible if I pulled and worked at it hard enough...but something tells me that this would likely be...unpleasant, and would probably exceed my taste for masochism. I suspect that I would not be in the mood to do anything with it afterward, and even if I did, I think it would be quite impossible to put it back. At my insistence, the penalties for being discovered in this condition are things I would truly not care to experience, which is intentional so as not to appeal to my taste for masochism and to eliminate intentional 'misbehavior' in order to intentionally incur 'punishment'. Careful consideration was given to the nature of these penalties such that Mrs. Twisted does not find them distasteful to apply, yet I find them so distasteful as to be unwilling to risk incurring them.

The sum total of these conditions satisfies my desire for a realistic experience in which Mrs. Twisted has the power to truly 'force' my compliance. While 'escape' is technically not impossible, given easily available tools for destroying the lock or device, or perhaps in the manner described above, detection is practically assured and triggers undesirable consequences. (In my case, escaping from the device would not end the 'Game', it would simply introduce a new twist and trigger different methods, conditions and consequences.)

I did experiment with 'lubing up' but there is insufficient room to get a finger far enough in/under to gain enough purchase to pull out. The conundrum is that without lube I could get a grip but everything is so tight that lube would be necessary to complete the task, but enough lube to complete the task renders the method unworkable. I suppose that I could use vicegrips to overcome the lube...but...um, no, I don't think I've got the 'stones' to do *that* . Any methods that I can think of to overcome the problem introduced by the lube are most likely painful enough to deter the use of them. and, at the same time, if they *were* tolerable and successful, reversing the procedure would be even more difficult and severe.

Someone asked a question in another thread, about 'swelling' inside the/a device. I have not yet had the chance to investigate fully, but there does (in this case) appear to be a slight bit of edema/swelling which, if this has in fact occurred, then pullout is even less possible. This is still in the experimental phase so further observation and testing is required before success or failure can be determined. If edema exists and does not reverse fairly quickly upon release, then the conclusion will have to be failure. Permanent damage is not acceptable.

I also have in mind several methods/designs in mind which could make 'pullout' even less possible.

[TwistedMister]

We were traveling for Xmas, and after driving several hundred miles Saturday night I began getting some pain in the area of the main ring. I don't know if it was my sitting position, or frequent arousals in the several days prior, or something else...or a combination. I tolerated the pain for the rest of the night and the next day, but in the wee hours of Monday morning I had to give up and take it off, then went back to bed.

Later, when I went for a shower, examination showed abrasion on the right side of the scrotum, and a red mark on the left side (but skin unbroken). I went back to the larger ring, it sits a little differently and will allow healing, after which I'll go back to the smaller. 'Toughening' of the skin might solve the problem.

On the 'plus' side, it appears that my concern about edema was unfounded. Everything appeared normal and there was no issue with getting an erection. The slight swelling observed simply adds to the 'security', although it does make washing up slightly more difficult.

[TwistedMister]

Back in the small ring on the 30th, night was OK, but next night was getting painful. Since Mrs. Twisted had indicated that New Year Day might be a day for play, I didn't want to be out of commission so I swapped back to the larger ring...which broke (again) during hard pounding- repaired with Gorilla (TM) Super Glue and JB Weld 'Steel Stick'. In addition to re-covering the previous repair area, the epoxy was extended on both sides up to the area of the holes for the mating pins which significantly reduced the inside diameter of the ring (and increased the weight). After several days of freedom the repaired ring was re-installed on the 6th on Mrs. Twisted's orders (after having noticed that the repair had been made) as she was leaving on a two week trip.

While repairing the broken ring, I decided to modify the next size larger ring, which had also been broken and repaired. The Steel Stick epoxy was added and extended in the same manner as the other ring, and ended up being an even smaller inside diameter...though rather ugly because I didn't get it shaped as well before the epoxy hardened (you only get 3-5 minutes and then you're done, whether you like it or not). ID measures 41mm at widest point, 40mm otherwise. Didn't measure the other ring, just eyeballed it, but it's getting close to the limit of what I can get into without a hinge.

Passed the night with the repaired/modified ring with no major issues. Placement is important as the roughness of the epoxy and reduced diameter means that there is no 'slippage', too close to the pubic bone or 'folded' skin within the ring results in 'burn'. However, it feels as though my hypothesis that a larger surface area and more gently rounded gradient is more comfortable in spite of smaller diameter may be correct. Extrapolating, I think a hinged ring of perhaps 1/2" to 3/4" (maybe wider?) with an elliptical cross-section could be wearable long-term in a size small enough to eliminate the possibility of pulling out/escape. The remaining major issue to be resolved would be the design of a hinge that will not pinch. Otherwise, a method of pin guides could be created by welding sleeves onto the ring to receive steel guide pins, with spacers to make an adjustable gap as with the CB-X line of products (which would eliminate the flex issue of the plastic pins in that line).

[TwistedMister]

In another thread, someone posted a question about the amount of time to adjust to sleeping. I put on the modified/repaired ring around the 7th, and was waking about every hour and a half or so. This has gradually improved, and the last couple of nights I've been getting a little over 5 hours before being awakened. If I consider 5-6 hours a full night (close enough), that's about three weeks. Maybe it will improve further.