Device Diameter / living with a tight fit

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Locked4Xtine
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Device Diameter / living with a tight fit

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Who here is using/has experience with a cock cage that is litterally the same size as your cock...?

Does anyone's/everyone's cock pretty much fill out the diameter of your cage at all times or is it normally a little loose on your cock unless slightly aroused?

What are peoples experiences (particularly night-time "experiences") with really tight fitting cages?

Is it nice having a cage which stops your erection from even starting?



As some of you may know from my previous thread, my steelworxx was a disaster as it kept slipping down my balls and resting about halfway down my cock.

At first I thought this was caused by my extremely loose and saggy nuts but Mature Metal reckons the tube was too wide for me...

My cock's diameter is 32mm when its at its most relaxed, it can also be up to 37mm diameter while still relaxed, and goes over that when arousal starts.
I was recomended a 38mm tube so i rolled with it. Unfortunately the cock had nothing to grip too most of the time and as the device can't be held up by my loose sack it wouldn't really stay on.

I think MM's right cos when im aroused it stayed on OK until I relaxed and then it would slip off again.

It seems my device will need to hold onto my cock as much as my balls.
The CB6000S tube is normally gripping my cock as the tube is a 32mm tall, 35mm wide oval, so at the very least the tube can grip the top and bottom of my shaft, even if the sides of my cock are occasionally away from the sides of the tube when I'm completely relaxed.

Anyway, I'm getting ready to order a Watchful Mistress now but wanted some input for my diameter choice.

the 2 feasable choices MM offers are a 32mm diameter tube or a 35mm diameter tube; he can't do an oval tube to match the CB6000 unfortunately.

Now, if I take the 32mm tube, the cage will definately grip my cock and keep the device on, but apart from the gaps in the cage there will be NO WHERE for my cock to grow, cept maybe a few extra mm in length in the tube.

If I take the 35mm tube, my cock will be fat enough for the device to grip to about 50-70% of the time + arousal times

My fears are:
I take the 35mm tube and the device has a hard time staying on but I can handle the night time.
OR
I take the 32mm tube and the device stays on but I find night time erections unbearable.

I do remember someone saying that having a super tight cock cage wasn't so bad at night cos the erection could never really start.

Look forward to hearing your experiences and opinions
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My home-made device had a tube diameter of 30mm, my cock always fitted but it looked like it was falling out the back. My Steelheart has a tube diameter of 35mm and at times it feels like a clapper in a bell but the back ring is as tight as I can get over my balls (to the point that I don't enjoy taking it off or putting it on) and it doesn't slip down but finds the 'crook' of the join with the body as it's resting place.

If you grip behind your cock and balls as hard as you can, the penis will be bigger than if you just measure yourself. I put down the wicked fit I achieved to the stupidity of wearing a curtain ring around my cock and balls for a few days and although I fancy a tighter tube if I would change anything about the Steelheart it would be to make it less square at the join so it would have a flatter profile and be more comfortable in tight trousers - but it's not a problem as it is.
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Locked4Xtine
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Re: Device Diameter / living with a tight fit

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so how was sleeping in the 30mm tube compared to the 35mm tube?
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poor wrote:but the back ring is as tight as I can get over my balls (to the point that I don't enjoy taking it off or putting it on)
What is the mm Diameter of your A-Ring?
Do you suffer with ball burning at night?
Or what about the kicked in the balls/makes your stomach almost hurt feeling?
I have an approx. 45mm ring, and it can burn really really bad sometimes, along with the circulation it can cut off to my balls if I'm not sleeping in something that supports/holds the device close to my body. Curs'ed nocturnal erections! :x
Of course I haven't been sleeping in a ring this size for very long, and I am wishing that it is something that will fade over time.
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I have a Steelheart that is 32mm diameter and 57mm long (just the tube part, not overall). When I use that tube there is absolutely no free space in the tube. It is quite difficult to get it on and take a bit of pulling (modified stocking method) and pushing (using a craft stick usually).

Once the small tube is on it is very comfortable both during the day and at night. I don't remember the longest I ever wore that tube but it was probably about 3 weeks.

I also have a 35mm tube in the exact same length. It is amazing how different they are. At first I felt like I was flopping around in the 35mm tube. I don't think there is that much extra room but it seems like it. There is definitely more movement.

It is very strange comparing the two. The smaller tube was much more difficult to clean, there just wasn't any room to work. The larger tube while very easy to clean seems to feel like it *needs* to be cleaned more often. I think it has to do with the movement in the tube.

The biggest downside to the smaller tube is that sometimes when I would pee if the tip of my penis was not positioned right, and you cannot tell on the Steelheart, the urine would backflow and come out between the device and the ball sack. This wasn't a major problem if you are sitting down but could be a bad situation when standing to pee. I found ways to mitigate it somewhat but it was still a pain. The strange thing is that even when that happened the smaller tube still felt like it was cleaner than the larger tube after urinating. This was the reason I ordered the larger tube, I also took that opportunity to get a smaller ring.

I have since sent the 32mm tube back to get the comfort ring added but I haven't tried it out yet. I am sure I will someday but I am not in any hurry.

A 38mm tube sounds like it would be enormous, I can imagine that sliding around.

At one point I had a Jailbird that was 1 1/8" diameter (a little less than 29mm). That cage was always tight. You would not have a problem with something that tight slipping down. I think that cage was 2 1/4", that is where I got the measurements for the first Steelheart. As much as I loved my Jailbirds I don't think I would go back to an open design like that. I much prefer the enclosed tube.

Sorry, a bit of rambling, back towards your original question. I have found that the snugger / smaller the tube the more comfortable the device is both during the day and nocturnal erections. Same goes for the A - ring. The smallest that I can wear at night usually provides the most comfort throughout the day. I started with a 48mm ring and now I am down to a 41mm ring. I think I have found my lower limit. When I tried the 40mm ring I had to take it off in the middle of the night. I might try it again some time (it was really nice during the day) but probably not for a long time.

Hope this helps, if you have specific questions I would be happy to try to answer them.
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My A-ring is 38mm. I have to put it on largest - smallest - cock and after a week of denial my balls are big enough to feel a bit sick after squeezing them through the ring.

I plan to get a 32mm tube at some point as I find I get too erect in the 35mm tube and the balls burn if I use lube and the ring bites into the shaft if I don't.

We're using the dual cock ring more than the tube. It's 35mm front ring works in conjunction with the A-ring to keep the skin taut around my balls. When the area fills with blood it gets scarily dark purple, swollen and desensitised to the point it feels like it's not part of me. As it deflates the balls get quite painful and this is what wakes me at night. (4am and 6am usually)
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Locked4Xtine wrote:Who here is using/has experience with a cock cage that is litterally the same size as your cock...?

Does anyone's/everyone's cock pretty much fill out the diameter of your cage at all times or is it normally a little loose on your cock unless slightly aroused?

What are peoples experiences (particularly night-time "experiences") with really tight fitting cages?

Is it nice having a cage which stops your erection from even starting?

Look forward to hearing your experiences and opinions
The first custom MM device I purchased had a cage that was 1 1/8 in diameter. That was the smallest ring I could slide on my flaccid shaft. Your penis is sufficiently spongy when flaccid it can be stuffed in a very confined tube. However, I found that, over time, repeated erection attempts caused my shaft to be somewhat sore when I was released for playtime. Although the soreness wasn't enough to prevent a normal erection when unlocked, it was definitely noticable. On my second MM device purchase, I allowed a little room inside the cage for expansion. I found that, as a result of the extra room, the soreness is no longer an issue. So, I would recommend a little extra diameter. It helps with daily cleaning, as well.
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Re: Device Diameter / living with a tight fit

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I'm plannig to get the steelheart2 device. But I don't know which tube diameter is good. I have now a bon4 with 32mm tube opening. I'm also 32mm when flaccid. I can get in the silicon tube with only water, no need for lube. I was locked for 8 days, with one very brief shower brake. When finally released I found some red bruising where the tube is smallest in diameter. This area was always feeling comfortable when locked. Perhaps the silicon material sticks to skin and causes this? The tube is 32mm for a short part and then widens. Also the a-ring is quite wide. Perhaps that short part grips too much when excited?

If I go with the steelheart, should it be the 29mm or 35mm tube? Theres no big difference from my flaccid 32mm size. Maybe the 29 would be good when the diameter is same for entire lenght of the tube and the material is more slippery.

I can now get quite hard in bon4 specially in mornigs. The device gets pushed quite far down, like 30mm from base. Perhaps smaller tube stops growing more early and stays better in place.
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Matt81 wrote:I'm plannig to get the steelheart2 device. But I don't know which tube diameter is good..
Welcome to the forum Matt.

You might want to research some of the previous discussion on the Steelheart2 here on the forum. I think the consensus was that the Steelheart was easier to live with. I know at least one person that got the Steelheart2 agreed and wished they got the Steelheart instead.

I have not seen the 29mm tube but I have to imagine that it is *really* small. I'm not saying it might not be right for you but that is really small. I have a Steelheart with a 32mm tube and that was really small. I wore it a long time but now I am in a 35mm tube. I may go back to the 32mm at some point (it had advantages and disadvantages) but may not.

My gut feeling based on what you have shared is that the 29mm tube would be a disappointment to you, probably the 32mm too. The Steelheart is not particularly slippery and is entirely unforgiving.
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Atone wrote:
Matt81 wrote:I'm plannig to get the steelheart2 device. But I don't know which tube diameter is good..
Welcome to the forum Matt.

You might want to research some of the previous discussion on the Steelheart2 here on the forum. I think the consensus was that the Steelheart was easier to live with. I know at least one person that got the Steelheart2 agreed and wished they got the Steelheart instead.

I have not seen the 29mm tube but I have to imagine that it is *really* small. I'm not saying it might not be right for you but that is really small. I have a Steelheart with a 32mm tube and that was really small. I wore it a long time but now I am in a 35mm tube. I may go back to the 32mm at some point (it had advantages and disadvantages) but may not.

My gut feeling based on what you have shared is that the 29mm tube would be a disappointment to you, probably the 32mm too. The Steelheart is not particularly slippery and is entirely unforgiving.

what were the advantages of the 32mm tube?

what besides the pee issue were the disadvantages?