Cock variance: custom cage sizing Vs CB6000s

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Locked4Xtine
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Cock variance: custom cage sizing Vs CB6000s

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How do you measure for a custom device?
I know you are supposed to measure at your smallest (unshrivelled) but whenever I look at my cock i cant decide what's the smallest.

Smallest while standing up?
Smallest while sitting down?

My relaxed cock seems to vary by an inch, I would like to get a device that matches my smallest smallest possible size, which would be almost snug even while sitting down.
But i worry if this would just be too tight to sleep in?

On my CB6000S generally i fill it up when standing but sometimes have 1/4" to 1/3" of room (use the smallest spacer) but when sitting there is between 1/4" to 1/2" of room.

So when ordering a custom device (probably Steelworxx) should I get it the safe bet of 1/4" smaller or go the full hog and get it 1/2" shorter?

The other worry is when the device is pressed firmly against my body I fill up the CB6KS completely but then the device is normally a little bit loose.
I'm tempted to get a slightly tighter ring if the anatomical ring is agreeable with me, and if the device is closer to my body I worry that ordering anything but a match of the CB6000S would be too small...

Decisions decisions...

Advice would be appreciated before forking out the cash!
Glad that Steelworxx isn't taking orders at the moment!
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Re: Cock variance: custom cage sizing Vs CB6000s

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Wow, funny you post this, I was just coming on here to ask a similar question, so I'll just piggy-back:

I've been in a CB6000s for several months now, and The Wife and I have fallen into a nice routine that we both want to maintain for some time to come, and thought now might be the time to upgrade to an all metal belt, something like a Steelworxxx. So I was wondering what was a good belt to choose if we've been very happy with the fit and feel of the CB6000s, I'm sure others have made the transition.

The next part was going to be about sizing, but Locked4Xtine already took care of that part for me!
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Re: Cock variance: custom cage sizing Vs CB6000s

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My advice for length would be to just lay flaccid penis along a ruler when standing. Don't push in. Do it a few times over a couple of days if you can and take the smallest "not shrivelled from cold" length. This gives you the length of the tube. Unlikely to be too short - your anatomy is likely to adjust and very few seem to have reported having to get the tube made longer...

As for which device - I have an MM custom - I like it as it's open - I'm uncut so can push back my foreskin with a Q Tip and get clean in the shower every morning without having to remove it often. Others like the steelworxx because it's closed. It really is down to personal choice.

Be careful with reducing ring size - it may seem like a good idea, but better slightly too big than slightly too small..... I made this mistake at first with mine - too small means unwearable without pain.
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I recently went from the cb-6000s to the Steelworxx Steelheart. Very good decision. I liked the cb-6000s, it was a very good device. As good as it was, the Steelheart is leaps and bounds better!

Unlike the Mature Metal devices, you measure from the base of your penis to the end along the TOP. I measured (standing up and not pressing into the pelvic bone) several times over about a week. You want numerous measurements so you have a very good idea of your flaccid, but not shriveled, length. This worked well for me. I went with 89mm, which was my typical flaccid length based on the measurements.

Coming from the cb-6000s, the ring size was fairly easy considering the invaluable information on Thumper's blog (denying thumper.com) Thank you Thumper! He suggested (correctly) to go with a smaller ring than you are comfortably wearing on the cb. I started on the 1 5/8" ring and eventually moved to the 1 3/4" ring, which is about 44.5mm. So I went with a 43mm and 42mm ring for the Steelheart (regular rings and the integrated lock). Thus far, I like the 42mm best. I might have been better going with a 41mm and 42mm ring, but won't know until the next summer, when I might really like the bigger 43mm ring.

I went with the 35mm width tube and standard 15mm gap which seems perfect. I used the the smallest and second smallest spacers on the cb-6000s. I think the second smallest worked best for me.

Hope this helps.
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Re: Cock variance: custom cage sizing Vs CB6000s

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Just a note on length. I would take lots of measurements over time as everyone has recommended, and then take the AVERAGE of those lengths. I went with the absolute smallest measurement over time - 2 inches, and now I have a device that I can't wear for more than a day... it just hurts. An extra 1/4 inch in length would have made a HUGE difference and I'd probably be able to wear it full time. My experience in my 6ks is just like you mentioned, and I have come to realize that a little breathing room in the length is a good thing.

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culsar wrote:I went with the absolute smallest measurement over time - 2 inches, and now I have a device that I can't wear for more than a day... it just hurts. An extra 1/4 inch in length would have made a HUGE difference and I'd probably be able to wear it full time.
This is a real challenge. Too long and it may be a little uncomfortable but will give you an experience that you can use to make adjustments. You can usually tell if it is 1/4" too long, 1/2" too long, etc... I think both MM and Steelworxx can shorten a tube for less than the cost of a full replacement.

Too short (or narrow) and it is pretty useless and you really have nothing to go by for making adjustments. All you know is it doesn't fit. I don't think any of the manufacturers can make a tube bigger without just making a whole new tube.

I think the advice of measuring at your smallest "normal" flaccid length rather than your most shriveled length is good. You also need to pay attention as danj said to whether the particular manufacturer measures from the top or the bottom. I see a lot of people recommend subtracting a 1/4" but I was burned once doing that so I wouldn't do that.

And, just to make things more complicated the diameter will also affect how well any given length will work. If the diameter is larger a shorter length might still work. If it is very narrow the extra length will be needed.
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Re: Cock variance: custom cage sizing Vs CB6000s

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does anyone know how much Dietmar would charge for shortening the tube?

I'm beginning to think I will order a near match for the CB6000S, maybe shave off 2 or 3mm
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Locked4Xtine wrote:does anyone know how much Dietmar would charge for shortening the tube?
I'm not sure, you would have to ask. I have sent him my old steelheart to have a comfort ring added to it. What would have been a 15 euro option will now be 60 euro because he has to cut off the existing locking parts (integrated lock) and then add the comfort ring and then the locking parts again. I think that is still only about half of what a new tube would cost.
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Atone,

I'm curious, do you find your new Steelheart with the comfort ring more comfortable then the old one without? I have the comfort ring, but no prior SH experience to compare.
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danj wrote: I'm curious, do you find your new Steelheart with the comfort ring more comfortable then the old one without?
Yes, I find it more comfortable. I don't know how much of that is due to the comfort ring though. It is also a larger diameter and slightly longer tube. I never noticed any particular discomfort from that area but it probably makes a difference. I don't see any reason to not get it other than the 15 euro. I would have the first time but I somehow over looked it.

I got the larger tube because I wanted to get the fixing with penis plug. My original tube was too narrow to add anything else inside it. It fit me just barely, the fixing took up space and needed a little room at the end. There is also a ring around the head of the penis on it that I would have never fit in if it was small enough to fit the narrow tube. I could just barely get it on with the larger ring in the larger tube. I have only worn it a couple of times for a day or two at a time.
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