Security thoughts...

[lockanky]

I am only 5 days into my first chastity experience - my wife holding the key.

I have some thoughts about "security" that I never really saw overtly stated on the blogs I've seen, or general information.

I was a little disappointed when I figured out for myself that my CB6K could come off without the key. I've also read that there is no trapped-ball device that can't be removed with a cold shower and soap. What a sweet thing if that were impossible.

But with that thought, not all is lost. There are other "locks" besides the actual padlock. For one thing, if you break the rules, then your keyholder might lose interest and give you the key back. The ultimate fail.

So here's the good news that I didn't know. The fact is, the device is actually VERY secure. For those times when your mind is rational, the "lock" provided by the rules of the game is plenty adequate. At those times, I WANT the device on my cock, and I want my wife's wishes to be fulfilled.

But at those times when I'm overtaken by testosterone, and I want the damn thing off right now so I can cum... at those times, there is no way in hell that thing could *ever* come off because the compression caused by my thwarted hardon makes it impossible.

So it can be defeated when you don't want to defeat it, and it cannot be defeated when you need it defeated most.

It's actually perfect.

[likingitlocked]

If you can easily get it off in the shower, I would suggest that you need a smaller base ring and/or smaller gap. While when flaccid, I think I could get mine off it would not be easy. Then you are in the position of not being able to get it back on. How do you explain that?

Ultimately chastity has to be in your head not on your cock. You probably asked for this so you have to keep the mindset that you really don't won't out. I agree that there are other locks other than the one that goes through the hasp. If I were to break trust with my keyholder I have not doubt we would have to re-think the whole situation and possibly stop completely. Not something I want to do.

My keyholder asked me if I needed an emergency key. No I don't. If it is truly an emergency I know how to use a set of bolt cutters and can get out. Getting out just because I'm super horny is not an option for me.

The real lock and key is in my head.

[Tame Lion]

I just finished a post on this. First of all, why are you trying? If you want a vault to hold your weenie, no cage will suffice. The purpose of the cage is to make it inconvenient to attempt to get off and impossible to get hard while it is on. If you need something that requires dynamite to get off, you probably aren't ready for this lifestyle. Seriously.

[lockanky]

It almost seems like my post was mildly offensive to the two responders. The first says that I don't have my device adjusted correctly, and the second says I'm not cut out for this. ...which is mildly offensive to me.

My device is adjusted as well as it can be, and my mind isn't jello. Thanks.

The point I was making was that *other* bloggers say that no device is 100% secure, and they weren't refering to bolt cutters. As I mentioned, I've seen more than one blogger claim that a cold shower and soap will defeat even devices with a uretheral tube.

When I was introduced to male chastity, I assumed the devices could not come off without the key. I don't think I'm alone on that. When you see a thing that has a padlock on it, you assume that removal requires a key. Wouldn't that constitute the perfect device?

And I doubt I'm the only person to be dissapointed to read when bloggers say that you don't need the key to remove. There is something special about the thought that the lock absolutely does its job. Please don't put me down for wishing it was 100% secure. That's erotic to me. And otherwise I have to make a mental allowance for the fact that I know *I* am the one controlling if the device stays on.

The point I was trying to make is that in reality it is not so bad as it sounds, but I have never come across this simple fact written in any blog: It is impossible to remove when you are aroused.

To me, that restores the fantasy of 100% security. In other words, at the only time I might ever wish, in the heat of irrationality, I could take it off, the lock is absolutely required.

Yes, I have my device adjusted correctly. No, I'm not ignorant of the dynamics between the chaste and the keyholder. I, like probably most, am just finding my own way to come to terms with devices that are not perfect.

[locked4her55]

I was a little disappointed when I figured out for myself that my CB6K could come off without the key.

Maybe the issue here is the word "off" vs "out".

After I finally got my CB6000s adjusted properly (which took several months) I did find there were a few times in the shower when I thought I could manage to get myself penis "out" of the cage but I never would have been able to get my balls through the base ring thus being able to take the device "off".

My fear back then was the inability to get myself stuffed back in properly and thus having some explaining to do.

[lockanky]

What issue?!!?!?

I thought I posted something that said that these things are 100% secure when they need to be.

I thought that was a good thing.

Then someone replied that mine is adjusted wrong.

Then someone replied that this isn't for me.

Then someone replied that the issue is "out" vs "off".

Maybe no one out there feels like me - that it is somewhat disappointed to find out the reality that these things are not perfectly secure, and who has also eventually discovered that actually, that's okay, because they are 100% secure when they need to be.

No?

[TwistedMister]

Relax, chill out. You're being overly sensitive about the replies, a couple were just trying to help and one just doesn't Get It. Not everyone is going to completely understand exactly what you mean right off the bat, sometimes it will be your fault for not communicating clearly, sometimes it will be the fault of others who are unable to comprehend or who are so highly opinionated that they can't see any but their own. If you're going to post on message boards (not just this one, but any board or usenet group on the internet) you're going to have to get a thicker skin. Getting bent out of shape because the replies you get aren't what you think they ought to be just makes matters worse. Sometimes you need to find a way to communicate more clearly, so as to help others to understand a little better, and sometimes you need to learn to have a little fun with those who can't or won't understand.

Back on topic...*I* understand exactly what you mean- I too have been a little disappointed that the 'inescapable device' has so far proven elusive...well, not completely elusive, but making escape impossible (without breaking, cutting or otherwise destroying the device or lock) turned out to be so painful that it was intolerable for anything but a short period of time. Over a long time there have been a lot of posts on the subject, using the search term 'comfort convenience security' will likely dig up quite a number of posts from others who have discovered the same disappointment.

[Linus]

Without entering into the line of arguments above,
I proudly 'claim' that my cage (my avatar) with proper size ring is 'impossible' to take off without unlocking even if the penis is flaccid
I have tried all experiments, with cold shower, ice bag, etc etc
And all my experiments were carried out in front of my KH wife
Only then she was convinced about having total control
In your case, I think a real snug fitting by selecting proper ring size & spacer length is required. That's it.

[eroslocked]

I have the same device as linus and can pull out within 30 seconds using the smallest ring size. I agree with lockanky. Much of the thrill is knowing that I am reasonably well restrained and to escape would be a quite a bother. I have decided that a piercing with two rings is necessary for the sort of security I desire. I have the piercing but my problem is that I can still separate the bead from the rings. I'll probably end up gluing the beads but I would be grateful for any other suggestions. Using a second lock is a bit cumbersome and bulky.

[lockanky]

TwistedMister: Ha! You're right! I'm new to this whole thing, and I am surpised by what I've learned - I'm more manipulative and controlling than I ever knew! Even with replies to posts!

Either being locked up caused a flood of male hormones and their associated aggression, or maybe being locked up just, for some reason, allowed me to see it in myself - I don't know.

But, last week, I already confessed to my poor wife and apologized for basically "topping from the bottom". Ugh.

Anyway... chalk it up to experience...