I'll be darned, she did it.

[Oldtimer]

Two wrongs do not make a right. Tom, what you do is also unsafe and something we should not be encouraging others to do. Do we all have access to tools wherever we go? No. Sorry, but in my world, we practice safe and sane fetish play and obviously you do not. I am out of here. Going to the real world where I do not have to guess which posts are real. If any of you do not know that most sex forum posts are phony, I have a bridge to sell you.

[Locked by LRC]

Going to the real world where I do not have to guess which posts are real. If any of you do not know that most sex forum posts are phony, I have a bridge to sell you.

What you say may or may not be true. I have seen many chastity sites and I will say that a very large number of the posts here are believable. I think you are going to be hard pressed to find another forum that is more true.

When you find the forum that meets your strict criteria that 100% of the post are real to you, please come back and let us know.

[TwistedMister]

Two wrongs do not make a right. Tom, what you do is also unsafe and something we should not be encouraging others to do. Do we all have access to tools wherever we go? No. Sorry, but in my world, we practice safe and sane fetish play and obviously you do not. I am out of here. Going to the real world where I do not have to guess which posts are real. If any of you do not know that most sex forum posts are phony, I have a bridge to sell you.

OT, you seem to be awfully uptight and rigid, and lacking in understanding that others may 'play' differently from you...and that that difference does not make them 'wrong', it just makes them different. Your way is not the only 'right' way. What is 'right' and 'wrong' for *you* is not what is 'right' and 'wrong' for everyone else.

...and the petulant "I'm going to take my ball and go home because you all aren't playing the way I think you should" is not particularly endearing, nor does it change our opinions one whit. Perhaps, instead of going "out of here", you should hang around and read more of the older posts and try to gain a better understanding of the flavor of the board...and a better understanding of how our differences do not make us 'wrong', just different.

I lost track of my 'emergency key' about a year ago, and in effect this is no different than putting glue in the lock as far as my being able to get it open is concerned. Oh, the horror! Not. Commonly available tools and a little pressure will crack a CBx device open easily. It would suck to have to waste the money but it isn't the end of the world.

[Atone]

I am out of here. Going to the real world where I do not have to guess which posts are real.

This seems like a rather extreme response to one post questioning one thing that you said.

[fuzzydunlop]

On my phone, so this is brief:

It's great that this forum is all about keeping things real, and that's what makes it different (and, IMO, better) than most other forums.

But Brad brings up a good point: Safe, Sane, and Consensual can be subjective. Any device can be removed with tools found in a local hardware store. Pouring epoxy into a lock isn't much different than using a rivet or a bolt & nut. Or, more appropriate to some of us, wearing your device to work and leaving the key at home.

Okay, enough drama. Let's go have some fun.

I have to agree with Tom on this one. Putting glue in a CB-6000 lock is easily defeated, and most of won't even have to make a trip to Ace to find specialized tools. All that is happened is the lock is ruined…..

The other thing real v. fantasy---this isn't always so black and white and most of us like to engage in role playing. Suspending the disbelief that a device (for a little while) is totally secure and permanently secured is almost certainly better than the real thing for 99.9% of us. It's OK to play pretend sometimes, even if you don't want to admit that is what you are doing when you are doing it.

No device is ever 100% secure--if you can put your junk in it, there is away of extracting your junk from it. There is going to be some combination of role playing, fantasy, reality, self discipline, and other things.

[Tom Allen]

The other thing real v. fantasy---this isn't always so black and white and most of us like to engage in role playing. Suspending the disbelief that a device (for a little while) is totally secure and permanently secured is almost certainly better than the real thing for 99.9% of us. It's OK to play pretend sometimes, even if you don't want to admit that is what you are doing when you are doing it.

I'm always hesitant to reply with my phone because I never seem to be able to get my point across in three sentences, and inevitably somebody takes it the wrong way.

First off, OT, if you're still reading, take a look at this:
http://vanillaedge.wordpress.com/2008/1 ... real-life/

I realize that you may have misunderstood my reply. Personally, I don't use a rivet or nut & bolt combination, but others do. But even so, it's no different form those guys wandering around without an emergency key to their MM or their Loris. I *know* I could break the plastic cuff ring to a CBxxxx, but that's not going to work with a stainless steel device.

So, instead of SSC, maybe we should consider chastity play for some people as RACK: Risk Aware Consensual Kink. In over a dozen years, I've only had to use my emergency key a few times, and that was in the first couple of years as we experimented with the fit, had things break, etc. I have not needed to use the key in about 10 years. That doesn't mean that I never would, but it does suggest that I'm "Risk Aware" and have been generally careful in my own actions.

Bradley's use of epoxy is unusual, to be sure, but in some respects it's not any more unsafe than what a lot of kinksters get up to, and his follow-up post shows that he does have some awareness of what's involved.

That said, can we all stop with the sniping and snarking? Sarcasm doesn't translate well in this medium, and considering the low level of danger involved here, there's really no need for the tensions to get out of hand.

[1mlockedup]

Tom's right ! The risk with crazy glue in the lock is not very serious. Everyone has to be aware of any risk taken, it's NOT like any of us are locked with a 4 pound railroad lock. A small bolt cutter for the lock, and problem solved.

[Dixon A Cage]

That said, can we all stop with the sniping and snarking? Sarcasm doesn't translate well in this medium, and considering the low level of danger involved here, there's really no need for the tensions to get out of hand.

I have to agree. You guys should just take a quick wank and chill out. Oh, shit, that's right. Never mind. My bad.

[Atone]

Everyone has to be aware of any risk taken, it's NOT like any of us are locked with a 4 pound railroad lock.

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Where can I get one of these?

[locked4her55]

...and the petulant "I'm going to take my ball and go home because you all aren't playing the way I think you should" is not particularly endearing, nor does it change our opinions one whit. Perhaps, instead of going "out of here", you should hang around and read more of the older posts and try to gain a better understanding of the flavor of the board...and a better understanding of how our differences do not make us 'wrong', just different.

Agree! If you go back and read his numerous posts over his short stay here he never really embraced chastity. The last few postings he began questioning why should anyone do it so I believe his days were numbered hanging out here. I wish him well where ever he goes.

Now, back to our regularly scheduled program.