I have to pay a keyholders fee every week. I also have to pay for any keyholder duties such as reprimands, being made to do anything.. basically anything that a keyholder might consider a chore or a treat or encouragment or.. endless list.
I have to pay for everything and for being denied so I also pay for nothing. Added up and paid weekly.
It all goes to a good cause of course.
I also get to earn good boy points which I spend on pleasing Miss C.
When C needs to save up for something big. I do get more attention although not necessarily nice for me attention.
Is it okay to make deals?
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Re: Is it okay to make deals?
Me. "I only got 30 seconds, that's not fair". C. "life's not fair, suck it up" 

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Phew! It took a while to get around to talking about the 'deal' cuz adulting sucks. But it turns out she was fine with it, and would have been fine with it without anything in return. Apparently, all I had to do was ask. WTF MAN?!? ALL I HAD TO DO WAS ASK! Such a novel concept, between two married partners. Someone needs to tell the world!
So, long story short... I'll probably be wearing the strap-on tonight.
So, long story short... I'll probably be wearing the strap-on tonight.
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Apparently, all I had to do was ask. WTF MAN?!? ALL I HAD TO DO WAS ASK! Such a novel concept, between two married partners.

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Re: Is it okay to make deals?
Agree with youchickenchowmein wrote: ↑Sun Mar 09, 2025 9:38 am Phew! It took a while to get around to talking about the 'deal' cuz adulting sucks. But it turns out she was fine with it, and would have been fine with it without anything in return. Apparently, all I had to do was ask. WTF MAN?!? ALL I HAD TO DO WAS ASK! Such a novel concept, between two married partners. Someone needs to tell the world!
So, long story short... I'll probably be wearing the strap-on tonight.
There is some notion here and over "at the other place" that if you actually have to ASK your partner for something....who the SAME PEOPLE will laughingly claim, "your KH can't read your mind."
That you are somehow doing something wrong and that this is somehow against some sort of rules of sex...
Totally disagree with that notion
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I don't think anyone will argue just how important communication is. Making deals could be considered topping from bottom. To me it just depends how its handled. If it's something that benefits all involved it's not so bad. If it's begging and pleading I'll do x if you do y. Then it's a whole other thing and you aren't actually let her take the reigns.
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True! There is a clear difference between "Asking in context of regular communication"vs pleading or I'll do x of (possibly undesirable thing) if you do y (thing you have expressed non interest in)Caged_kink3d wrote: ↑Sun Mar 09, 2025 3:19 pm I don't think anyone will argue just how important communication is. Making deals could be considered topping from bottom. To me it just depends how its handled. If it's something that benefits all involved it's not so bad. If it's begging and pleading I'll do x if you do y. Then it's a whole other thing and you aren't actually let her take the reigns.
For you example...big example....personal example..
I posted pics of me getting ready to "faux" MrsLocknKey here at the end of January. January 29th. I had posted here as well as "over there" how I was pretty certain that She was "keen on the dildo."
She has not asked for it since then.
Over a months time
I brought it up and She said She just isn't into the strap on/dildo much. Noted. Will not bring that one up unless She does. Done.