newbie stupid question about escaping

[locoloco]

Hi everyone,
I am glad these forums exist and there are so many great people here.
I am newbie to chastity, I am just starting to experiment with this. So, please, excuse me for stupid questions.
Among the devices I tried is Slave4master Turtle Cage, Soulock Bound Guard escape-proof, and Soulock Trustlock Sentinel escape proof. I like the design of them.
My newbie question is this: Are there any serious devices that don't allow any escape? Because even they are called escape proof, they are not (for me). Those I tried hold my balls nice, but when I am relaxed I am able to slip out my penis , and with lube I can even insert it back. I can't completely remove the device, because it holds my balls cramped between ring and cage, but the possibility of slipping my penis is kind of ruining it all. I am a grower, so when flaccid I am very small, but when hard I am reasonably sized. That means lot of free skin and possibility of that escape. Do you think I should try smaller rings? Different device? If you can give me some suggestions, I would appreciate it.
thanks!

[Chosen_Jackal]

No that’s the thing about most chastity devices. They’re not escape proof even though they claim to be. Some view the cage as a reasonable physical barrier that reinforces the mental aspect of staying locked. A regular cage with just a ring and a tube for the penis will never be 100% secure.

There are ways to reinforce the security of a cage. An urethral tube will make pullout more difficult, but not completely impossible.
Some use tether spouts and claims that pullout is impossible, though others report that it’s still possible even if it’s painful.
I guess the most secure way to be locked with no pullout possible is to get a PA piercing and a cage with a PA hook.

[Spaceman]

As i understand it the tube makes it harder to escape, but not impossible, but it is impossible to get back in, i have never tried one.

In.my experience the shorter the cage the harder it is, i started off years ago in the cb6000 at 8cm (officially the 'right' size) and escape was fairly easy, as i write this I'm in a 2cm steel which is much harder to escape from. However I have no wish to cheat on my keyholder / wife / soulmate and escape when she's instructed ne to be caged.

As chosen Jackal says a PA is probably the only 100% secure way.

[locoloco]

Thank you so much for your replies!
Urethal tube would be good, but I don't know if I am able to withstand that long-term. I am keen on playing with sounding, so I am not against the idea, but just from experience I think it would be difficult to stay like that for a long time. Maybe I need more training?
Tethering spouts - that sounds interesting. If it is something around waist what can't be unlocked, that might help, because escaping always involve pulling upper part of CB away from my body. If I can't do that, that might help. Some reasonable wire going through upper pard of CB holding it against the body. I'll look into this!
PA piercing is definitely the most secure option, I believe, but I am not yet ready to do this and maybe never will be.
I don't want to cheat, but I want to have that feeling that "now I send the key to my friend and there is NO WAY of going out without the key or destructive measures". That feeling is very arousing to me. The moment I drop it into mailbox is very good.
I will probably try also other cages. Soulock is great, I love the way it squishes my balls, I get aroused from that, but I can't keep this on for several days. I need few milimeters more space. Maybe I'll try their Enhanced Restraint model with that tether around the waist. If you know there is something commercially available, please let me know. Otherwise I'll make some wire comfortable enough with a little lock.

[TwistedMister]

As i understand it the tube makes it harder to escape, but not impossible, but it is impossible to get back in, i have never tried one.

For me, with the CB-3000, with a 40mm ring, pulling out is extremely difficult, even when very relaxed and lots of lube. I am fairly certain that a urethral tube extending back behind the ring would make it practically impossible as I already have to bend it completely over on itself to do it. Combined with a 38mm ring I think it would be certain that I wouldn't be able to pull out...it would have to be a hinged ring because a 40mm ring is the absolute smallest I can get my balls through.

[Tongue+groove]

. However I have no wish to cheat on my keyholder / wife / soulmate and escape when she's instructed ne to be caged.

This one hits home with me. I have been faithful to my wife since the first day I met her over 40 years ago. I even walked (ran) away from a couple of strong advances from other women. Then one day it hit me that my masturbation habit had become a way of cheating on her. Which brings me to the cage. I originally wore it to demonstrate my loyalty. Now she expects it. A few months back I failed her and rubbed one out. She had left the key accessible and said she trusted me and knew I would tell her if I transgressed. Oh the grief I had and telling her was excruciatingly painful.

Sometimes I think she left the temptation of the key as a test. I don’t really know. What I do know is that it hasn’t left her sight since then, I get a cage check after my shower and before she leaves for work. On rare occasions she used to give me timed diy sessions, but not anymore.

Yes there’s a point to this. I don’t want to ever fail her again, so even trying to test the integrity of the cage is off the table.

So my question to locoloco is, why? Why are you locked?

[Mr Pickle]

the possibility of slipping my penis is kind of ruining it all. I am a grower

This is why I added a uretheral tube a few year back and have had it ever since. I don't know it is there most of the time.

I have started a thread in this. "Transition to uretheral"