We are married 52 years and for the last 15 years have been a monogamous couple for the first time. For the previous 20+ years (cannot remember exactly) we lived with a bi girl my wife and I knew and loved since high school. We retired and our girlfriend was ubscpble to move with opus at the last minute. Long story. So we are a couple agsin. My bi wife is not that into sex with men. Prefers males for everything but sex, hence our 15 years of being locked in chastity. The gf was into sexually dominating men so I was well taken care of sexually although on the honor system which was basically just no orgasms without permission.
Up till now we had sex almost weekly with my wife deciding if and how I orgasmed. My wife would be fine with sex just a few times a year just because she loves me, not because she prefers it. Even when we do have six it is just her coming on her vibrator and when allowed I masturbate as she causes me sexual pain.
She prefers less sex and fewer orgasms for me but I prefer the opposite. We finally agreed on a solution. I bought an app that is like the Wheel of Fortune. I set up two wheels. One selects hoe many weeks till we next have sex plus whether I orgasm or not. A second wheel was set up to select the number of strokes with the horse whip which hurts like hell. One section gives her a choice while others go fro 5 to 10 strokes.
In short it allows my wife to not feel guilty for denying me sex and orgasms as it is no longer her choice. It also gives me protection against being whipped raw all the time. It is set to select sex in 1 to 4 weeks with or without an orgasm till the next spin. This alleviates her guilt and is weighed towards less orgasms and longer periods between sex. Basically I have a 30% chance of sex with an orgasm within 2 weeks.
I have already gone over two weeks with no sex or orgasm but I spun the wheel and not too happy. I have to wait 3 weeks for sex BUT no orgasm. Then we spin again theoretically I can go months with no sexand/or no orgasm. My wife wanted to wean me off of all orgasms to stop me from asking for them all the time. So this Wheel of Chastity is a compromise as it does provide her with weeks of both no sex and orgasms most times due to how the choices are weighed in probability. Better than no more orgasms at all. Do not care about the sex part as my wife stopped PIV and ORAL sex 35 years ago. I only orgasm by masturbation when allowed so jerking offtomporn is better than in front of my wife crushing my balls to hurry me up.
Also better than her original plan of weaning me off of all orgasms. I also get a Xmas gift from here, a more narrow and shorter version of the already small Baby model cage I wear. She feels there is too much room in the cage making it easy to pull out as I can insert an entire finger into the cage with my penis in it. Plus my penis when flaccid only reaches half the length of the 2.1 inch cage. The new cage still not short enough will at least make pulling out more difficult. I have only pulled out once in 15 years and that was after slicing my ankle open to the bone high on a double dose of pain killers.
We were never into games to decide when I orgadm as we felt that took all the power away from the key holder. However, at our age and given that my wife wanted no more orgasms for me and six just on special occasions, I thought this a better choice. I just got notified that my wife added Jan 8th as our next sex day but no orgasm. Will have to spin again to find out next sex day and IF I will be allowed to orgasm then.
I can theoretically go months with no sex or organs this way but at least I have a chance rather than sexual twice a year with no orgasm. On a side note, my wife is a good example why not to marry a 20 year old virgin who never had an orgasm, masturbated nor saw or touched an adult penis in pre internet days. She loved sex when I gave her the first orgasm of her life. However, after our first threesome with her girlfriend she loved, she learned sex was much better with girls than men. Even tested that out and she felt nothing with the other guy.
Stayed married because my wife never had sex with any woman unless I took part. Since her gf lived with us, I enjoyed sex with her sexually dominant gf. We were a great fit and threesomes as your normal sex for 20+ years was a great sex life. Did it all but mostly with the gf since my wife still does not know much about sex with men or what they like. Yet she loves me and will try anything I ask. Just not experienced with men. In all fairness my penis is 2’ flaccid, unable to get erect anymore and I am sterile but my wife stood by me even though I am unable to give her the children she wanted.
Despite all this we made it work because we do love each other deeply. As a side note. All three women I truly loved are bisexual. My wife and my ex fiancé are more into girls. My ex is married to a woman for 23 years now. Our ex girlfriend married a bisexual cuckold who would go on vacations with us and turn his wife over to me till time to go back home. Our gf married him in the last few years of our poly triad going from full time living with us to part time. He is very sexually submissive. Our gf married him for financial security in her old age but he turned out to be a compulsive gambler who lost all their money after he retired forcing both of them to still work into their mid 70’s. Plus he has Parkinson’s disease so it did not work out well for our ex gf. It was a blast while it lasted. Entering one of my private clubs with two hot girls on my arm was fun. Guys gave me the thumbs up while their dates gave me dirty looks.
So, marry a sexually experienced person like our ex gf since she knew every fetish on fetlife while my wife knew nothing.
How does your key holder decide when you have sex and/orgasm
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Whatever and whenever she feels like it.
She says ‘it’s cute’ in the nub. 

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Same as Tongue+groove. Whenever and whatever she decides. I stay locked 24/7. When she decides she wants sex she brings out a deck of cards and we play three rounds of 500 Rum. I win I get unlocked and she uses her penis. I lose and I wear a strap-on. If I win the first two rounds she will call for the third round to be played winner takes all so in truth, I have to win all three rounds. If she is feeling mean, I have to take a Viagra at the start of card playing and it really sucks if I lose.
Orgasms for me have dwindled from 12 in 2023 to 6 in 2024. Think she is going even lower in 2025 as it’s been 156 days since my last orgasm and my first potential chance of an orgasm is 03/21/2025. Of course she will find a way to push that back even farther. I will not say I would bet my left nut on it cause she was a vet tech and could remove it. Lol
Orgasms for me have dwindled from 12 in 2023 to 6 in 2024. Think she is going even lower in 2025 as it’s been 156 days since my last orgasm and my first potential chance of an orgasm is 03/21/2025. Of course she will find a way to push that back even farther. I will not say I would bet my left nut on it cause she was a vet tech and could remove it. Lol
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That was a lot of words for a post that had almost nothing to do with the question that you asked.


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There was a time when we discussed this., potentially..
but because she, at last check.,(2020) was not interested in “ controlling “ my orgasms,,, that discussion, boiled down to her wanting me to be the initiator of sex.. she wants to be , needed, touched, flirted with and hugged.. which I do,, however introducing chastity to her (twice in 10 years in all the wrong ways) ,, and ; being caged as I was self locking for a while, gave her the impression that I was not interested in her..nothing was further from the truth!! we would begin to play towards sex that evening, then she might blurt out “ oh, that’s right you’re wearing that chastity thing again,, never mind.., “ it would spoil the whole thing.she would be disappointed.. like I valued the kink over her.. this is a fine line with her…
“That Chastity thing again”…she would say..
Then ,, I’m trying to explain again,,how it is her penis to use as she wants., when ever she wants.. she insists she doesn’t need another “thing to do or keep track of”.. so..
2021 is the last time we talked about it.. was not good or bad ending .. threw all my stuff in the trash.. we are back in our regular cycle..If I buy another device without her involvement , I know I will probably regret it.., and to ask her about helping pick one out is out of the question..
so ., to answer the question.. no key holder, no device, no restrictions. Only me keeping myself always ready for her.., set apart for her alone…. My loving ,amazing, beautiful wife..
but because she, at last check.,(2020) was not interested in “ controlling “ my orgasms,,, that discussion, boiled down to her wanting me to be the initiator of sex.. she wants to be , needed, touched, flirted with and hugged.. which I do,, however introducing chastity to her (twice in 10 years in all the wrong ways) ,, and ; being caged as I was self locking for a while, gave her the impression that I was not interested in her..nothing was further from the truth!! we would begin to play towards sex that evening, then she might blurt out “ oh, that’s right you’re wearing that chastity thing again,, never mind.., “ it would spoil the whole thing.she would be disappointed.. like I valued the kink over her.. this is a fine line with her…
“That Chastity thing again”…she would say..
Then ,, I’m trying to explain again,,how it is her penis to use as she wants., when ever she wants.. she insists she doesn’t need another “thing to do or keep track of”.. so..
2021 is the last time we talked about it.. was not good or bad ending .. threw all my stuff in the trash.. we are back in our regular cycle..If I buy another device without her involvement , I know I will probably regret it.., and to ask her about helping pick one out is out of the question..
so ., to answer the question.. no key holder, no device, no restrictions. Only me keeping myself always ready for her.., set apart for her alone…. My loving ,amazing, beautiful wife..
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Ditto.
I did it in one word
Me. "I only got 30 seconds, that's not fair". C. "life's not fair, suck it up" 

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Vinny, your story sounds familiar to some posted several times previously...new name?
Devices tried: BirdLocked (V1), CB-6000s, two DHGate devices (273 and currently wearing circular barstock ring version of the same thing)
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My wife nakes me roll a dice to see how long I'm in the cage for.. good behaviour cuts the time down, but she still gets to cum if she wants to
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Wait till she starts having you roll two dices.
WPS
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It's still early days so she doesn't want me locked up too long, and honestly not sure I could handle it yet! If she rolls a big number it honestly makes my heart skip for a moment and wonder what I've got myself in for haha