Orgasm Denial vs Penetration Denial

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Orgasm Denial vs Penetration Denial

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(tap-tap - is this coming through? I'm a new member and just posted to "Hello World". Not sure when posting a new topic will be permitted but I thought I would put this out there.)

On the boards I read a whole lot of discussion about climax denial, how long since last release, and how long until next release but very little about penetration denial. For me it is kind of the opposite. The feeling of penetration is about the best thing in the world and being denied that 10 times worse than being denied climax.

In fact, when M and I started playing with orgasm denial the amount of penetration time increased dramatically. M loves penetration. I am not allowed to climax so sessions lasted much longer. I must to call stop when needed. Consequences are enforced by bondage. I'm motivated to behave. So, I don't get to climax much but I do get a whole lot of penetration.

My form of kink is to want to NOT get what I want. This is probably common around here. So naturally the IDEA of being denied penetration is very hot and very scary. Far more than climax denial. Since M likes penetration she is not going to NOT do penetration. Actually, she does at times and says that she regrets it later.

There are ways to deny the enjoyment of penetration while still doing penetration. Mostly M does not put me inside her until I'm already on the edge of climax and then she keeps me on the edge. I spend most of my time inside her focusing on not climaxing, which requires NOT focusing on how good it feels. I've also used a two condom technique. If I put a condom on my dry penis, then lube, then a second condom that blocks all the good sensation of penetration. Fortunately M does not like condoms so we don't use this. We have played with numbing cream (lidocaine). A moderate amount blocks a lot of my sensation but I can still set stimulated. This lets M move more which she considered a success. She said "exceeded all expectations". A moderate amount given a lot of time to take effect blocks all the sensation. I can't even feel that I'm inside her. The one time we did this I did not remain erect and so M considered it a complete failure.

So that is how we have been playing with penetration denial. Mostly a whole lot of penetration and a little bit of experimentation. The idea that some technique might catch and take hold is exciting/scary. Far more than the fact that M says she won't let me climax for another 10 months.

How do others feel about penetration denial vs climax denial. Why so much focus on orgasm and so little on penetration? What is your situation?

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When I'm locked, I don't get either. No erections, no penetration, no orgasms. I stay locked during all sexual activities unless she specifically wants intercourse (which is rare). She does allow me to orgasm during intercourse, though.
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To each his own. Chastity play is whatever you make it. Personally, penetration denial is not something I have sought out, and I am glad my KH enjoys penetration. I do see your point, for me to be denied penetration would also be more drastic than to be denied climax. In our relationship, FLR is the goal, and chastity is a tool. Although I find chastity play erotic, most always I do not want to be locked up. However, the cage is undeniably the most effective tool in her arsenal to maintain dominance.

So it seems your goal is to have penetration for her, but for you to be denied the pleasurable experience. Interesting.
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pokekey wrote:How do others feel about penetration denial vs climax denial.
It's all about pleasing my wife and she really likes to have me inside her. When it is allowed (last time was September 27th, so there's your penetration denial) I usually don't know if she will allowed me a real orgasm, a ruined orgasm or no orgasm. Lately when I'm allowed PIV she wants me to have an orgasm inside her but I have to admit that it's much more frustrating for me when she has me pull out before my O and says "you're all done, go ahead and lock back up" :shock:

She knows denying me an O keeps me on my toes.

She can be a wicked woman sometimes. 8-)
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I'm caged 24/7 and don't know when my g/f will want an orgasm. When she does want her orgasms, it's always with PIV. Sometimes she lets me cum after her, other times only she cums and I'm locked back denied. So I get the best of both worlds via chastity and penetration denial. I only wish she was more into bondage...
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My wife likes to deny me an orgasm, she likes the control and believes it makes me a better man. I enjoy the "high" of not having one ( 15 months now ). We won't ever be doing penetration denial, she loves PIV and she gets what she wants.
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Mostly, I am denied penetration as well and remain locked while pleasuring her orally. This, of course, tends to make penetration and/or blowjobs more of a 'treat'.

However, Mrs. Twisted really enjoys fucking, and this has fueled some talk of her fucking others and making me watch someone else getting what I can't have (but, so far, it's been all talk). The idea of having two or three young studs at once really makes her wet...but as yet she lacks the confidence to actually make it happen.
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Post by Sammy »

Different strokes for different folks is the rule when it comes to chastity play. I think penetration or no is entirely up to the keyholder. Since I'm the keyholder and this is supposed to be about my pleasure, that's the way it will be. End of story.

That might not work for others, but it is what I've decided works for us.
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Sammy wrote:Different strokes for different folks is the rule when it comes to chastity play. I think penetration or no is entirely up to the keyholder. Since I'm the keyholder and this is supposed to be about my pleasure, that's the way it will be. End of story.

That might not work for others, but it is what I've decided works for us.
Totally the same with my KH. She decides, its now an "honour" to be allowd inside her, albeit she loves sex (PIV) but on her terms, at her time and when she feels like it...
Orgasm denial is part of it, and has little to do with penetration, I am allowed to penetrate her at her wish, but I am not allowed to orgasm unless she specifially allows it..

She makes the rules, she holds the key... thats the way it is
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My wife enjoys penetration, but also enforces strict standards of conduct. I am not allowed to ejaculate without permission, and more often than not, she tells me to withdraw. If I wait too long before asking permission and discharge, she'll be very unhappy. She wants me to learn control, and to never assume that I may achieve completion. That decision is solely within her domain, and my forgetting this leads to unpleasant consequences.

Two days ago my wife, after I had given her a lovely release, asked me if I could be trusted to penetrate her but delay my orgasm until she gave me permission. I said yes, but failed to control myself and left a mess on the bed after she had pushed me away.

We had a long heart-to-heart about this last night and she told me could no longer trust me in this regard, and that from that point on intercourse would be severely limited. She further explained how this hurt her, as she enjoys penetration, and we discussed how my selfish actions had impacted her. While she would reinforce this point with a painful caning later that evening, it was the fact that I had let her down that I regret the most.