Our Journey Begins

[Petjude]

As we are just starting out on our journey playing with chastity devices I have many questions which I will be asking as we grow and develop. A short history about us to help under stand where we are and what we are coming from. We are a long time committed mature couple living a Master (M) / slave (f) relationship 24/7, both in our early 60's. As part of keeping our relationship committed we sit down as a couple not as M/s and discuss everything about our relationship. This we do at least twice a year some times more often because we believe it is important to our relationship that we have these open and frank discussions. It has been surprising the number of times that one of us has established one of these discussions only to find that the other was thinking along the same lines.

Resulting from one of those discussions we have started to explore chastity devices and penis plugs. Our reasoning would not be considered conventional. We are not looking for the chastity side of the devices. I find I am very interested in the look of the devices together with the thought of wearing one for periods of time. In short adding yet another string to our bow.

I have been doing heaps of research on the subject, devices, peoples experience etc. From that research I have concluded that their is fare more utter rubbish out their as against useful worthwhile information. However I have found some info which I would recommend any new person read as a useful guide. The first I would strongly recommend is " Getting a Good Fit" by Caged Lion. His advice sorted out a minor problem with in the first 3 days. He advised wearing the cock ring full time for a number of days to confirm the ring size is the correct size for you. As I have a number of rings I was able to start wearing a 44mm ring full time. Although the ring was comfortable etc. I did note that my rocks have increased slightly in size and developed that heavy feeling we all experienced as teenagers after heavy sessions with our then girlfriend but not getting past first base. On day three I changed to a 45mm ring, just 1 mm larger. It is chalk and cheese, the difference that 1mm has made. The ring only comes off every 2nd day for the five minutes to shave then I put it straight back on. My balls are still the slightly increased size but the heavy feeling is totally disappeared. I have also noted that my penis has never returned to turtle look since I have had the ring on. It remains around the 1/4 to 1/2 erect size. But that could just be a very active mind playing tricks with me.

Now for my first couple of questions.
Have people noted a slight increase in the size of their ball once they start wearing their device full time.
Also would they recommend the cock ring be the single ring or the double ring. My thoughts are that the double ring would be the most suitable ring for the cock ring of the device. My reasoning being that the double ring is twice the width giving less movement and more support.

From our research we have established that we will be getting a custom made device of the open cage / rings type.

That should do for my first post

[CagedQKA]

I cannot accurately comment on which ring is best or which size is best, etc. For that I would just do some trial and error until you find the right fit. That may even include getting a custom device built for you.

In terms of ball swelling. That is a pretty common occurrence. A little swelling is normal, but if it is so much that you see them turning different colors (lack of blood), then you should immediately remove the device and try a larger size. If it doesn't feel right, its not right.

[Shepherdsflock]

I have the Holy Trainer V2, so I don't know of its exactly apples to apples with what you have. But, I can say that the heavy balls thing is probably universal no matter what model. It was a little bit of a surprise to me. Because of they way the ring fits on the Holy Trainer, it stimulates my scrotum just a little bit when my testicles are full. After several days when my prostate and testicles are permanently full, the stimulation of the ring on my scrotum and testicles causes me to dribble semen throughout the day. It's a little ebarassing, but at the same time it made me feel really "owned" in a deep way by my wife. Every time I felt myself dribbling it reminded me of her ownership of my manhood.

[Petjude]

That makes sense, Shepherdsflock, when you stop to think about it. By changing my test ring to one only 1mm larger has reduced the stimulation which has resulted in the heavy feeling going away. Also very interesting to learn that it is very common for your balls to increase very slightly in size. I will continue on with my full time trials as we want the measurements 100% correct before we go ahead and place our custom order. No point ordering if it will not fit correctly and can not be worn 24/7.

[Petjude]

Now that I have been wearing the 45mm round stock ring for a week with no problems, only taking it off to shave them returning it back on about five minutes later, it was time to get a cage so that we could continue with our sizing trial. If only you could trial fit a cage in the shop like you do with clothes. We purchased a stock generic cage with cum through penis plug, with a cock ring size of 45mm same size as the ring I have been wearing all week. Photo attached.
The first thing I found is that the fitting of a round stock ring as against a flat bar stock ring are just not the same at all. Ok with the round stock ring you only have a very small area that is the 45mm where with the flat bar ring you have the full width of the ring, in this case 10mm that is the 45mm, resulting in a tighter fit.
First lesson trial with a cock ring of the same type that you are going to have on your cage.

Secondly do not get a hinged or split cock ring, or if you do be prepared to pinch yourself as you close the ring, or move it getting it into the right position. Second lesson only use a solid one piece cock ring.

The saving grace is that we did not spend a lot of money for the generic unit I purchased and these are the exact reasons we got it to make sure all measurement are correct so that I can order a custom cage. The cage length and ring sizes in the cage appear to be right but until I have trialed the cage for a week or so I will not know for sure. As the cock ring for the generic cage I purchased is not available separately I am going to work out a answer for this problem. Don't really want to by a complete unit with a larger cock ring. I have noticed they have cock rings with a lead ring fitted to them. With a little alteration that could work
Now for my question. How do you get Percy into the cage? The second he starts to put his head into the cage, he takes one look and decides no and starts growing, and that is without the penis plug fitted to the cage. After much prodding, pocking, pushing even using a cotton bud to push him along, lube I was finally able to get Percy mostly into the cage. So what is your trick, because if I have to go through that every second day at the least when I shave I can see we will not remain friends for very long. I hate to think about fitting the cage with the penis plug fitted.
We will work it all out.

[_lj_]

I'm not sure I'm understanding your terminology. I'm assuming when you talk of "cock ring" you actually mean the base ring that fits directly against the body, and to which the cage is attached.

Sizing the cage can then be done with rings of a smaller size, to find the one that snugly fits the penis in its relaxed state (which is also when you measure the length)

Again making an assumption, that the cage you have is large enough to "just" allow the relaxed shaft to enter - but you are then getting "excited" and it won't then go in! I think this is a natural occurrence for all of us at first, there is undoubtedly an erotic element, and of course the man (or woman)-handling of the penis is likely to engender the obvious response. All I can say is that this will decrease to zero when chastity devices are regularly worn.

In the meantime you could use the famous "stocking" method. Just get the foot end of an old stocking, enclose the penis in this, but leaving a "tail" at the foot end. Put the base ring in place. Thread the tail into and through the cage, then gently insert the shaft into the cage, using the stocking to help pull it into the cage, whilst guiding the cage onto the base ring mount, then continue to pull until the stocking leaves the tip of the cage. You should now be caged! Let any possible erection subside before you close the device fully.

[groundedBird]

In the meantime you could use the famous "stocking" method. Just get the foot end of an old stocking, enclose the penis in this, but leaving a "tail" at the foot end. Put the base ring in place. Thread the tail into and through the cage, then gently insert the shaft into the cage, using the stocking to help pull it into the cage, whilst guiding the cage onto the base ring mount, then continue to pull until the stocking leaves the tip of the cage. You should now be caged! Let any possible erection subside before you close the device fully.

Hmm, I'll keep the stocking method in mind. Sounds easy!

[Petjude]

Ij thanks for that, sounds like it should work, will give it a go.
Yes everything I have read calls the base ring which fits completely around all your tackle and fits directly against the body is called the cock ring.
I understand I am getting excited with my first attempts at fitting the cage. We where sitting down chatting about the cage just before and thought I should try with the penis plug fitted using it as a further guide.

[_lj_]

Can't speak from experience with a urethral tube (No, I'm never going to either!) but I think it is fair to say that you should experiment with wearing the device without it for several days or weeks. There are enough issues that can occur starting out on wearing a chastity device without adding the complications of hygiene, sterility (of the tube ) and potential damage that a tube incurs. And I certainly wouldn't use it as a "guide" to help inserting the shaft into the cage. I understand that would be done after insertion into the cage ? Others with experience may like to comment ?

[TwistedMister]

Now for my question. How do you get Percy into the cage? The second he starts to put his head into the cage, he takes one look and decides no and starts growing...

You gotta sneak up on him...

Get yourself something boring or difficult to read- an engine repair manual, a manual for fixing problems with the Windows operating system (or a guide for Unix), or some instructions for some cheap put-it-together-yourself crap written/translated by some Chinaman with little knowledge of English.

Then get yourself lubed up and get everything as close to 'on' as possible. When further progress is impeded by excitement, read your selected material for as long as it takes to numb your body and mind...and at the point where little Percy becomes despondent and hangs his head in despair of getting any fun 'n' games, drop the book, grab ahold of the little bastard and quickly stuff him in the cage before he realizes what the hell is going on. Click.