Holy Trainer Guardian Anti Pull Out device

[luckylocked]

Just thought I would share my experience with the new Guardian for the HT devices. As many have commented the HT is very comfortable, but a bit easy to pull out of. This was my experience as well, and although I have good self control, I still didnt like the idea that I can pull out.

I ordered the Guardian from Locked Up Love and fitted it yesterday. A little bit of trimming of the rubber fingers and when soft I don't notice it at all. The great thing is, I can't pull out! I can try, but the fingers stick into the penis and it gets to a point where it just stops and any further effort would be excruciatingly painful.

I am very happy now as I do have a love hate relationship with this device. I love it for the supreme fit and comfort and light weight. I hate it for cleaning as it takes a while in the shower. I hate/love it for the complete coverage of my penis. I cannot stimulate myself at all and it fits so snugly I cant shake to orgasm. I love it when Mrs K fondles me and laughs and laughs at me and the fact I cant feel a thing other than the pressure of my erection.

All in all, the Guardian makes the HT a much more secure device. I am going to be locked for a long time, so will keep updating. Potentially till next year judging from my mistresses comments that Christmas will come before me.

[Energyhavoc]

How short did you cut the fingers?
Did you cut at an angle? Did you blunt the tips?
Large cage or small cage? Are you circumcised?

I got one last week and I've been messing with it a bunch. So far, pull out is harder. Maybe just from the reduced amount of space in the cage. I continue to cut away small amounts at the "teeth" to hopefully hit the most effective length. I have not been blunting the tips.

I suspect this would be very effective against pain averse men who are circumcised, tighter the better. For those who have not undergone some form of genital mutilation, the effects are less.

[corsairf4u]

So how do you know how much to trim the tips? When I put it on there is some initial discomfort/pain from the tips but it goes away fairly quickly. I have not trimmed it yet. Even with the device I am still going turtle. although not as much as before, which I think makes it useless.

[gilesenglish]

Interesting add-on. Is it actually 100% secure? You can't for example, push something flexible in to disengage the rods can you?

[Energyhavoc]

So how do you know how much to trim the tips? When I put it on there is some initial discomfort/pain from the tips but it goes away fairly quickly. I have not trimmed it yet. Even with the device I am still going turtle. although not as much as before, which I think makes it useless.

I'm down to about a half inch. Still reducing.

[newbie]

Having just received my Guardian the other day I can only give you what I've found so far.

These observations are from me using a Standard HT tube, 40mm ring. I am circumcized.

The initial finger lengths were way too long, and when all assembled and locked shut, the fingers protruded past the ridge of my head and laid on top. I never felt any discomfort, but when I removed the device for cleaning it was obvious from my skin indentations. Also, the fingers were cut in random ways, so that needed to be addressed as well. I went ahead and cut them all the same at about a 45 degree angle pointing toward the bottom of the tube when assembled (chamfer on top). I reassembled everything (without me inside) to see where the fingers ended and because the Guardian gets pushed toward the end of the tube by the base ring when assembling, they still were too long and would still be on top of the head of my penis. My feeling is that they should extend only as far as the back of the ridge, thereby poking into that if I were to try and pull-out. I suppose a little further back would be ok too, but it would then be poking into the skin on top of the shaft itself. I'm hesitant to keep trimming, but with the device assembled it is easy to feel with your finger where the ridge is suppose to sit to align with the ridge feature in the tube, so I'm going to use that as a guide while still cutting at the same angle.

One thing I did notice while wearing it was that I didn't turtle like I have before, so whenever I checked on the alignment of things they were right where they should be, so peeing was no issue. No mess.

I was somewhat concerned about sleeping thru the night with this new part but that wasn't an issue either. No pain, and no waking up.

You'll notice too that when all the parts are assembled the shape of the tube angles the fingers down toward where the penis would be, so this will add a little bit of pressure to them forcing them into more contact with the member inside. Whether this was by design or not I'm not sure, but it looks like it will make it much more restrictive against pull-out.

Yes, you can probably overide the system by sliding something flexible down the tube, but if you have to go to that length just to be able to pull out and play then I suppose only a PA Device would suffice for you.

[luckylocked]

I'm still trimming to get it right. I took them out the other night with Mrs K's permission but I cant find where I hid them in the middle of the night. When I find them I will reply back.
One thing we did do was as I was free for travel on a plane, Mrs K had me take the integrated lock through security in my pocket. It was a gleeful look on her face when it didn't set the metal detector off so that is one more situation where I don't have to be unlocked anymore. It is pretty much only surfing now where I get to unlock.

[johnrain1444]

Hey, great review of the Guardian. I was wondering if you knew whether it would also fit the Rikers Locking Chastity Cage. The cage nearly identical in style, shape, and size as the Holy Trainer v1 and I wanted to get it to prevent being able to pull out of the Rikers. Does anyone know if it will fit? Or is the material of the Guardian flexible enough that I can make it possibly fit? I can't afford to buy a Holy Trainer right now after buying the Rikers and it would be a huge relief to be able to just buy this piece to fit my device since I can currently pull-out. I'm very disappointed and my girlfriend and I really want to start playing with chastity :-/.

The device is listed on ExtremeRestraints website for those who want to see what it looks like.

Thanks for your help in advance.

[newbie]

After wearing mine for a few days, I still think it does what it's supposed to do. I need to shorten the fingers just a bit to be perfect.

One thing I have found with mine is that nobody took the sharp edges off the part that clips onto the tube....ouch. Nothing major, but some discomfort there, so I want to eliminate those sharp corners ASAP.

[groundedBird]

Hi guys,
just received my Guardian yesterday and am experimenting with it. What is the approx length of the pegs you have settled with? I have done 4 or 5 trials, cutting the pegs a little shorter every time; now they are about 5mm shorter then their original length and I am still be able to pull out, even if the reduced space inside the tube makes it a little harder.

The instructions say that a man with a normal girth should be comfortable with very short pegs bu I'm afraid to cut too much.

I'm not circumcised so I think that the excess skin that accumulates at the base of the head when I push it inside the tube makes the pegs less effective. Any comments/suggestions from the uncircumcised?