[tongue+groove] From vanilla to spumoni

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. How does this make you feel?
This is a legitimate question and one that I have trouble answering. If I had a good answer I would probably already posted it. Since you asked maybe it’s a good time to come to grips with myself about it.

The variables involved are:

My drive is much higher than hers, hence all the diy.

I have committed to stopping, therefore the cage experiment that has become the norm.

Piv can be uncomfortable for her, something we both have learned.

As good as our oral sex life was in the past it’s even better now, for her. I would rather give than receive for sure.

If she takes me out for play time the best I can expect is to dribble.

If I get piv I have to cum fast. So fast that the stress causes me to fail. When she is done she pushes me out and one of two things will happen.
1) too bad you lose, lockup.

2) she says finish yourself for me. And she watches intently or ignores me. Both are a rush.

It’s in those words “finish yourself for me” that I become almost primal. In my mind it’s something that I do for her and not for me. So much of the pleasure that comes from self indulgence is lost. It’s like I’m doing my duty for her. Like washing the dishes. I get to take care of one of her chores, I get the benefit of clean dishes (flushed prostate) but there’s no deep rooted joy in savoring the act itself.

Ultimately I think masturbation is considered a personal and private act. Maybe that’s why she doesn’t give me a show very often. But when I’m on stage for her I become exposed, vulnerable maybe desperate. It’s an exercise in the power she has over my mind and my desires. It’s a reminder that I’m violating my commitment, but it’s because she wants me to. It becomes a dirty act. Sometimes she reminds me of that afterwards. Sometimes during the duty she says thing such as:

Does it feel good to touch yourself? How fast can you cum? You don’t have time to get oil, just spit on it like you’re desperate.

The woman who holds me in high esteem in public has a way of degrading me in private. For some reason I need it. One of my favorite degrading comments was afterwards when she said, “that was disgusting, clean yourself and don’t touch me.”

Who knows maybe it’s her way of reminding me why we do this.

Not sure if I answered the question but in a nutshell, it makes me feel ……confused, degraded, honored, loved and all warm inside that she will do this for me.

Life is good.

P.s. I understand that not all kh’s feel like my wife. Most think self indulgence is not permitted. But just think about if that was all that was permitted and at the kh’s discretion. That may be the benefit of her not reading here, she creates her own take on the kh position.

Thanks for asking your question.
She says ‘it’s cute’ in the nub. ;)
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The humiliation aspect of it is one I can appreciate as well. Like Mrs G, Red has also taken a liking to asking me questions or stating facts about me that makes me feel embarrassed while we’re intimate in some way, and Ives’s surprised at first when I discovered how much that turned me on.

I guess I’m lucky that Red still enjoys piv with me. Like you I climax much quicker than I used to, but she enjoys having that power over me. She loves seeing me lose control and struggle to contain myself.

I also on hundred percent agree that giving her pleasure is way more fulfilling than receiving.

I guess we’re both lucky men that we have these powerful and beautiful women in our lives.
I’ve talked to men who are ridiculed and downright abused by their women for even suggesting they should try chastity.
When things are different than I fantasized about in my head, I remind myself what a lucky man I am to have this wonderful and open minded woman by my side.
I’m locked and kept by Redraven, my life partner, soulmate and loving key holder. When life is hard, she’s keeps me feeling loved.
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. I’ve talked to men who are ridiculed and downright abused by their women for even suggesting they should try chastity.
Chastity or just about anything else in life.

There’s a whole lot of difference in a woman who ridicules and emotionally abuses her man just to maintain power over him, and one who erotically humiliates or intimately T&D ‘s their man for the pleasure of them both.

The litmus test occurs in public. The first one will openly demonstrate her power through unnecessary ridicule and brow beating, while the second is subtle and welcoming by the man.

Just my opinion, and many on here would probably disagree with me.
She says ‘it’s cute’ in the nub. ;)
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Tongue+groove wrote: Thu May 29, 2025 6:31 am There’s a whole lot of difference in a woman who ridicules and emotionally abuses her man just to maintain power over him, and one who erotically humiliates or intimately T&D ‘s their man for the pleasure of them both.
Thank you for this. I've been married twice. My first wife was very demanding sexually, but only because she wanted children. She wasn't interested in sex outside of her fertile week. Anything "kinky" like oral was forbidden. My second wife seemed to have a determination not to let me make her orgasm, but anything went. It turned me into a very selfish lover. Other partners I've had have displayed similar kinds of control.

Both my wives were very strong personalities, and both liked to ridicule me in public for a variety of reasons. It is probably where a lot of my sexual issues come from. I will tell more when I get round to starting my journal (eventually)
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Finally getting to start building my sawmill building. The weather has not cooperated but I’m not complaining. After 4 years of drought it’s nice to have a lush spring. Been coming in every evening exhausted. Mrs. G has been quite understanding.

Today I needed her to hold the tape measure. The dummy end as we call it. Since chastity I never use that term with her. This is my first major building project without my kids involvement. The four of us made a great team.

Mrs. G required me to pay her for her help with kisses. I m always happy to pay up. Hoping to pay her a bonus tonight since she asked me to grill supper.

Life is good even after the kids have grown.
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You two are so adorable!

And milling your own lumber 🪚🪵

Very happy for you!
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Grilled chicken breast, turkey burgers and a pineapple last night. I always add some scraps of cherry wood to my charcoal. It adds a sweet flavor to the meat. Was able to cut the chicken breast with a fork, it all but melted in your mouth.

Shortly after supper I must have fell asleep in my chair. She woke me around 9 and told me to get up and go to bed. Woke up around 5 this morning and we held hands for awhile. Then little dog barked to go outside. We adopted little dog during our chastity trial run. Little dog has been on our sleep schedule for almost a year now. It’s as bad as having a baby in the house when it comes to morning intimacy.

I’m really not complaining. Little dog has been good for her. Mrs. G doesn’t care much for morning intimacy anyway. Holding hands was nice. She has the softest little hands. I fell in love with her the first time I felt her hands.

Where would we be without the human hand?

Holding hands makes life good.
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It was good to see the grandkids yesterday. Also got a few moments with just my son. I always enjoy those times together. But the drive, I really don’t care for long drives since I retired. Just over 4 hours round trip. We were both pretty exhausted when we got home.

Finally in bed almost asleep and I feel her finger nails teasing my back. Very strategically working, gently and focused then deep and erotic. My Neo’s quickly set in. I haven’t had opportunity recently for the experience so I was quite receptive. Each one stronger than the previous until the wave took total control of my entire body. I actually begged her to stop. I was starting to physically hurt from the events of the day and the neo’s. After I calmed I was fast asleep.

I woke at 1:30 AM with major wood straining. Peeing didn’t help much. The next 4 hours were the same, it never would go away. Up about 5:30 and it still took time for mr. Wanky to calm down.


This morning Mrs. G asked if I was ok after all the shaking. She is always concerned about my welfare of every aspect of chastity. In our conversation she asked about what I was reading on this site. I shared some items with her. I think she may be getting a little closer to taking a look inside.

Then out of the blue she commented about making a house cleaning schedule since she was now retired. I gave her a strange look that she asked about. I said I was concerned that it was for me. Keep in mind that I cleaned from top to bottom as a retirement gift. She said that’s a good idea. since I do such good work she said it would be a paired schedule where we would do it together. I didn’t tell her but that sounded awesome to me. I love the idea of working with her on the house. This will also allow her more time to do the things she enjoys.

The beauty of this woman she can be so many things at the same time. Her very next statement was, what day do you need me on the tractor? She’s so awesome. She’s my driver when I need to use the auger for post holes. She really stepped up when the kids left home.

She’s my best friend first. Then she so many other things, my soulmate, workmate, lover and so much more.

She makes life wonderful.
She says ‘it’s cute’ in the nub. ;)
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I truly belive you two have the best years ahead of you still now that you’re both retired.
It’s clear from the way you write that you love each other deeply.
I’m locked and kept by Redraven, my life partner, soulmate and loving key holder. When life is hard, she’s keeps me feeling loved.
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. It’s clear from the way you write that you love each other deeply.
We are very seldom apart. For 15 years we either carpooled to work together or worked in the same facility. She is not able to go with me to a woodworking conference this year so I decided to not go. Some may say that’s not right, or it sounds like I’m needy, but it’s my decision. It just won’t be any fun without her with me.

We’ve both had friends come and go in our lives. But she still the one I want to hang out with the most.

It’s just the way we are.
She says ‘it’s cute’ in the nub. ;)