Questions from/for Keyholders

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Um, there's _one_ green bead. If you take it away, his chances are now _zero_. Not sure if that's your diabolical master plan, but....

I guess he better be good then

[Tom Allen]

Nobody said that he had to know how many were in the bag to start with, right?

[WendyWicke]

Put one green and 10 blue marbles or beads in it.
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If he does something really bad (forgets to pick you up at the airport, leaves the toliet seat up) you can take a green bead away.

Um, there's _one_ green bead. If you take it away, his chances are now _zero_. Not sure if that's your diabolical master plan, but....

Well, he'll just have to earn it back by doing something good!

But the point of the bead game is for someone like Belle who doesn't want to "dictate" (her word) the outcome to get more comfortable with it. From the way she phrased it, I bet she's willing to influence the outcome but she's just not comfortable yet making the final decision all by herself. After a while she'll get more comfortable influencing it and then be ready to make the final decisions herself.

Or not! If the beads are fun, stick with it! The only person who can take away your keyholder's license is the guy you have locked up, so as long as he's having fun and you're having fun, no worries.

[likes2blocked]

But the point of the bead game is for someone like Belle who doesn't want to "dictate" (her word) the outcome to get more comfortable with it.

Right, I get that part. Just your instructions had a bit of a gotcha in them. Other than the spectre of a poor guy drawing marbles, never to find the green one, it is good advice.

BTW, since I am a mathematically oriented geek, the odds are that 98% of the time, he'll never go more than 20 days this way. Which may be fine, just something to consider.

Somewhat more seriously, there's some timing issues to consider - it takes 4 days to a week for it to kick in that you're really doing this, and she's _really_ in control. Assuming you like the game aspect, might be good to wait a few days, and then start the game. Say go 4-7 days, and then start with the marbles. He'll be losing his, so you'll have more to play with.

Personally, I really like the aspect of keyhldr being in control, and she decides - don't want it up to chance. Of course, if she decided it should be up to chance, then I'd probably explode, not knowing what to do...

OTOH, I also understand that someone new to this ought to work up to that, and Wendy's suggestion is good for that.

[Atone]

OTOH, I also understand that someone new to this ought to work up to that, and Wendy's suggestion is good for that.

This is where we are. My wife is all on board for locking me up and keeping me locked up. More and more she has learned that she really does like it better this way. At the same time it is not her nature to say 'I have decided to keep you locked up for x more days'. Even though it has been almost 60 days since my last orgasm she still feels bad extending it even one day (really, what is one more day at this point?), her idea of being harsh would be saying next tuesday. I, on the other hand, would probably come back with something ridiculous like '2011' and keep it open ended at that.

We negotiated that she subject me to 'harsh discipline' in my chastity (part of our fantasy play) in exchange for something that she wanted. We agreed in principle but she just couldn't come up with a time frame. It was actually stressing her out, I could see it. I then suggested a game of chance to determine how long and that actually got her excited. Her face lit up and she got giddy. I think all the stress left her in an instant. 'Go get the box' she said. I knew what that meant, we have a dice game we play that uses a box as the board. I got excited too because I know this means it could be from 11 to 66 days added on. She throws the dice (2 of them) and closes the lid before they settle down. She then asks, which one is first, the one closest to you or me? I select the one closest to her. Then she asks do you want this roll or one opportunity to re-roll them yourself? I decide to take her roll of the dice. By this point my heart is racing like crazy. She has a smile that goes ear to ear (I think she may have seen the dice before the lid closed). In any case she is truly excited as well. She instructs me to open the box. It was an amazing adrenaline rush as I opened the lid. A 3 and a 5, and the 5 is closer to her so it will be 53 more days. Her response was greater than mine, 'ooh, that is going to be a long time'. Where is my calendar. She grabs her calendar and says something about December. She opens it to October and crosses out 'unlock' (it was supposed to be last Tuesday) and starts counting the days, through October, all through November, well into December. December 13th to be exact. She rather unceremoniously writes unlock on the 13th (much like she would write 'pick up laundry') and puts the calendar away. My heart is racing with both the excitement of the challenge and the realization of what it means. She asks if I will make it that long, knowing she will not back off, this she is *very* good at. I think I will be ok, I am already half way there. I was already at 57 days so this shouldn't be too bad.

So for us the game of chance helps us both achieve what we want at this point. She needs to be relieved of some of the pressure. I need an outside influence (not me deciding) establishing a 'harsh' time period. Yes, I would have loved it if she just said to me 'do you remember the last orgasm you had this year?, good, because it is going to be your last orgasm this year' but we are just not there. We may never be there. Like I said, that is not her nature. If I had suggested that to her she would probably go along with it, she is very accommodating of my needs. But this wouldn't have satisfied my need to have *her* decide. I realize that the roll of the dice isn't totally her deciding either but it is a lot closer.

Sorry for the rambling. A little excess 'pressure' tonight actually forced me to get up and walk around a bit to work things out.

-A

[Dev]

53 more days, huh? On top of 57, let's see that makes 110 which is close to one-third of a year. And you are more or less new to the game (just a few weeks ahead of Ab and I, I believe. Didn't you get your first device on July 23rd?).

At the rate you are going, you'll be rivaling Tom Allen and his 8.5 month record.

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[Atone]

53 more days, huh? On top of 57, let's see that makes 110 which is close to one-third of a year. And you are more or less new to the game (just a few weeks ahead of Ab and I, I believe. Didn't you get your first device on July 23rd?).

At the rate you are going, you'll be rivaling Tom Allen and his 8.5 month record.

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yeah, 110 days. Sounds like a lot and if I started with that I don't know how I would do it. But I actually look at it as 'only 53 days, no problem, I have already gone 57. More than half way there already'. I am positive I will be begging for after the first of the year once that gets a little closer. It is just too big of a milestone to pass up (or not pass up actually).

We got my first device on July 11, we started the denial on the day before though on the 10th. The last 'unsupervised' orgasm I had was on the 9th.

I can assure you that I am not going for a record. It is just hard to not want more of what is working so well for us. We both are experiencing so many benefits that neither one of us wants to stop any time soon.

-A

[cb6000s]

We negotiated that she subject me to 'harsh discipline' in my chastity (part of our fantasy play) in exchange for something that she wanted.

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It sounds to me that if she wanted to give you harsh discipline then she would let you out and make you orgasm. Since what you want is to go longer the discipline would be to not allow that.

How do you tell a true sadist.
Masochist: "Beat me. Beat me."
Sadist: "No"

[Atone]

It sounds to me that if she wanted to give you harsh discipline then she would let you out and make you orgasm. Since what you want is to go longer the discipline would be to not allow that.

That was actually my quote, not sure what happened on your post.

Yes, that is why it is 'fantasy' play. The whole 'punishment' thing doesn't work either. I get punished for good behavior

-A

[Dev]

Yes, that is why it is 'fantasy' play. The whole 'punishment' thing doesn't work either. I get punished for good behavior

You must be a baby boomer. "Plays nicely with scissors" and all that...

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