TwistedMister - I think you bring up some excellent and on the mark points.
I 45mm base ring was problematic of sliding down when going commando and prior to bending the cage to tighten the gap to 8-9mm was also capable of slipping my balls thru and escaping.
The 40mm ring took a lot of work to get on but ultimately felt pretty good after a few days, no apparent blood flow problems but I think it was a bit too tight and acted as a cock ring and prevented blood/fluid from flowing back out after trying to getting worked up while caged.
I'm a tick into my 50's so Viagra is a fact of life...
Another rookie mistake we made was to take a Viagra while caged one night to see how that played out - I enjoy CBT and being pushed but don't think we'll be doing that again...
The edema finally went away; toughest spot to recover was a nickel sized spot on my shaft, used a band-aid to add compression to speed things up - I was bummed it seemed to take longer than it should.
Fast forward now (been unlocked for 2 weeks) - Saturday night was a play night w/ a Viagra and intense O (my Wife wanted me to); last night (Tuesday); planned Wife Worship night and another Viagra as She wanted me to 'F' her hard, I was not permitted to cum.
Noticed this morning I had a small flair up of edema on my shaft of the problem area, went away rather quickly - ties in with the Viagra hypothesis.
So...Tomorrow the UberKinky Stainless Spiral is due to arrive, it has a 39mm i.d. and a should be the right length. Plan on using the 45mm ring along with a waist cable to hold the cage up - found the idea elsewhere of using braided cable inside a rubber tube for comfort and wrap around my waist as a belt, the ends are looped via a swaging crimp and the loops wrap around the locking post thus locking securely and hopefully relatively comfortable.
Hoping this will at least confirm or narrow down the problem.
Sorry for the long post - really hoping to find a way to make this work and looking for as much guidance as I can get.
Thanks again,
Steve
Newbie - Edema problem?
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Re: Newbie - Edema problem?
Eh? What?CZSteve wrote:I'm a tick into my 50's so Viagra is a fact of life...
I'm closer to 60 than to 50...Viagra not needed...though I *have* contemplated the idea of Viagra while caged, I'm a bit masochistic...
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Re: Newbie - Edema problem?
Well... Good for you...TwistedMister wrote:Eh? What?CZSteve wrote:I'm a tick into my 50's so Viagra is a fact of life...
I'm closer to 60 than to 50...Viagra not needed...
Not that's it's a 'requirement' but I'm not able to mimic my physical ability of my twenties, at least my knowledge and priority focus is much more enlightened.
If I want the intensity and ability to go several hours it's part of the nightly agenda - no shame here at all!!
Twisted - Apologies if I'm wrong in interpreting your post as condescending and boastful but obviously it comes across that way. Sincere thanks for your initial reply.
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Re: Newbie - Edema problem?
Sorry for the negativity a moment ago - obviously rubbed me wrong, no pun intended...
Moving on...
Received the Spiral cage Thursday upon arriving home from work - quite heavy and hoping to use this as help determine edema concern and if I'll move forward with a custom cage.
The internal 39mm id seems HUGE at first.
Tried it on with the 45mm ring and then put on the 40mm, wore the cage w/ the 40 for a day and a half - noticed I was staying slightly engorged.
Had some worship time with my Wife last night, she suggested we take it off so she could play and it may be better to take it slow right now regarding the cage.
Had some slight puffiness but nowhere as bad as previous, went away very quickly - went unlocked thru the night.
This morning I rigged up the stranded cable 'belt' to use with the 45mm ring - I've been wearing this all day today and so far it feels very good. My Wife has worked me up a bit here and there thru the day and not having any problem coming back down. So...obviously it appears the 40mm ring is too tight, guessing a 42mm would be about right.
Plan on running with the 45 ring for now and use the cabe/belt to keep all high-n-tight.
Thank again for any helpful input.
Moving on...
Received the Spiral cage Thursday upon arriving home from work - quite heavy and hoping to use this as help determine edema concern and if I'll move forward with a custom cage.
The internal 39mm id seems HUGE at first.
Tried it on with the 45mm ring and then put on the 40mm, wore the cage w/ the 40 for a day and a half - noticed I was staying slightly engorged.
Had some worship time with my Wife last night, she suggested we take it off so she could play and it may be better to take it slow right now regarding the cage.
Had some slight puffiness but nowhere as bad as previous, went away very quickly - went unlocked thru the night.
This morning I rigged up the stranded cable 'belt' to use with the 45mm ring - I've been wearing this all day today and so far it feels very good. My Wife has worked me up a bit here and there thru the day and not having any problem coming back down. So...obviously it appears the 40mm ring is too tight, guessing a 42mm would be about right.
Plan on running with the 45 ring for now and use the cabe/belt to keep all high-n-tight.
Thank again for any helpful input.
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Re: Newbie - Edema problem?
No problem. It was merely a mildly humorous attempt to convey the idea that a generalization of Viagra being needed by *anyone*/*everyone* over 50 was not necessarily correct. I didn't think a 'smiley' was needed as I thought the "Eh? What?" would sufficiently convey the humorous intent (imagine someone half asleep/not paying attention suddenly waking up when a snippet of conversation intrudes).CZSteve wrote:Sorry for the negativity a moment ago - obviously rubbed me wrong, no pun intended...
It is unfortunate if it has become a 'fact of life' for *you*, but you seemed to be giving the impression that you thought that would be so for anyone who has attained the age of 50, which it is not. Usually my attempts at humor succeed fairly well (at least, I imagine they do) but apparently not in this case. Oh, well, can't win 'em all.
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Re: Newbie - Edema problem?
I tried Cialis for a boost, but the cost was too much. Now I use a niacin supplement and pycnogenol (French Maritime Tree Bark) daily. While I may not spring into action like I used to, under her care I can get a hard as I could possibly want (sometimes more so, when she really works her magic).
Re: Newbie - Edema problem?
Following up for more input if y'all don't mind.
Sorry for the long post but trying to be detailed and really looking for some added insight.
The Stainless Spiral from UberKinky has worked relatively well to at least take care of the edema concern.
Started cautiously and just recently went two solid weeks without the cage being removed at all until this past Saturday - upon removing after the two weeks everything looked perfectly fine.
This cage is not quite perfect and looking to move to a custom from either Red Chili or Mature Metal - bouncing back and forth, my Wife likes the look of the Tarantula from Red Chili and it's a better price point but also heavily considering Mature's Jailbird.
Looking for some input from y'all to help evaluate.
My specs again for convenience - BTW, I'm very much a grower FWIW.
My Dims (shortest flaccid - BTW, I'm cut):
Length (measure top of shaft): 3-3/4" / 95.25mm
Length (measure under shaft): 3-1/4" / 82.55mm
Glans Dia: 1.5" / 38.1mm
Shaft diameter: 1.25" / 31.75mm
First choice is the Red Chili Tarantula and torn on cage diameter.
Planning:
- 43mm A-Ring
- 80mm cage length (maybe 85mm)
- 6mm gap (originally planned on 8mm but current cage is ~ 7mm and is fine)
- 35mm or 40mm cage diameter???
Current cage is a 39mm id - when flaccid there's a fair amount of 'wiggle' room along sides.
Bent the post so bottom gap is 7mm, but top gap opens up to a massive 19mm - my left testicle has actually slipped thru as a result of the upper gap.
Older cheap cage was a 35mm id that felt good, especially when being teased with more intense straining.
Older cage caused significant edema problem but I was also wearing a 40mm A-Ring with the older cage and not sure if the chrome plated cheap cage also contributed to the edema.
I like the size option of the 43mm A-Ring from Red Chili but like the cage ID of 38mm (1.5") from Mature Metal, MM's ring would probably be a 44.45 (1.75") - once again, my Wife/KH likes the Tarantula better given all else is equal.
Cutting to the chase and assuming a Red Chili Tarantula
Recommend a 35 or 40 mm cage id?
If I go 35 for the cage and 43 for the A-Ring is that a concern for the horizontal gap section?
Is an oval ring 'squashed' vertically so it's tighter top-bottom?
I 'assume' my initial edema problem w/ the cheap cage was a result of too small of the 40mm ring - How much of a 'possibility' will a 35mm cage ID impact edema concerns assuming the 43mm A-ring if correct for me?
Note: I've been using a stainless braided cable wrapped in vinyl and swaged loops on the ends to wrap around my waist and locked to the cage post - this has worked beautifully to keep the 45mm A-Ring high-n-tight.
I feel like I should gave a bit tighter a ring compared to the current 45mm; planning on still using the waist cable and guess I could do a 45mm A-ring also concerned a 45 A-ring w/a 35 cage would be too much of a vertical gap.
Also - input on round VS oval A-Ring?
Input?
Thanks for your time.
Sorry for the long post but trying to be detailed and really looking for some added insight.
The Stainless Spiral from UberKinky has worked relatively well to at least take care of the edema concern.
Started cautiously and just recently went two solid weeks without the cage being removed at all until this past Saturday - upon removing after the two weeks everything looked perfectly fine.
This cage is not quite perfect and looking to move to a custom from either Red Chili or Mature Metal - bouncing back and forth, my Wife likes the look of the Tarantula from Red Chili and it's a better price point but also heavily considering Mature's Jailbird.
Looking for some input from y'all to help evaluate.
My specs again for convenience - BTW, I'm very much a grower FWIW.
My Dims (shortest flaccid - BTW, I'm cut):
Length (measure top of shaft): 3-3/4" / 95.25mm
Length (measure under shaft): 3-1/4" / 82.55mm
Glans Dia: 1.5" / 38.1mm
Shaft diameter: 1.25" / 31.75mm
First choice is the Red Chili Tarantula and torn on cage diameter.
Planning:
- 43mm A-Ring
- 80mm cage length (maybe 85mm)
- 6mm gap (originally planned on 8mm but current cage is ~ 7mm and is fine)
- 35mm or 40mm cage diameter???
Current cage is a 39mm id - when flaccid there's a fair amount of 'wiggle' room along sides.
Bent the post so bottom gap is 7mm, but top gap opens up to a massive 19mm - my left testicle has actually slipped thru as a result of the upper gap.
Older cheap cage was a 35mm id that felt good, especially when being teased with more intense straining.
Older cage caused significant edema problem but I was also wearing a 40mm A-Ring with the older cage and not sure if the chrome plated cheap cage also contributed to the edema.
I like the size option of the 43mm A-Ring from Red Chili but like the cage ID of 38mm (1.5") from Mature Metal, MM's ring would probably be a 44.45 (1.75") - once again, my Wife/KH likes the Tarantula better given all else is equal.
Cutting to the chase and assuming a Red Chili Tarantula
Recommend a 35 or 40 mm cage id?
If I go 35 for the cage and 43 for the A-Ring is that a concern for the horizontal gap section?
Is an oval ring 'squashed' vertically so it's tighter top-bottom?
I 'assume' my initial edema problem w/ the cheap cage was a result of too small of the 40mm ring - How much of a 'possibility' will a 35mm cage ID impact edema concerns assuming the 43mm A-ring if correct for me?
Note: I've been using a stainless braided cable wrapped in vinyl and swaged loops on the ends to wrap around my waist and locked to the cage post - this has worked beautifully to keep the 45mm A-Ring high-n-tight.
I feel like I should gave a bit tighter a ring compared to the current 45mm; planning on still using the waist cable and guess I could do a 45mm A-ring also concerned a 45 A-ring w/a 35 cage would be too much of a vertical gap.
Also - input on round VS oval A-Ring?
Input?
Thanks for your time.