tqbartleby wrote:I'm in a similar situation to you, Locked Texan, in that I'm getting my first device. Faced with the plethora of choices I figured I would start with a CB-6000S, which seems to be commonly used and well tolerated. Looking around, I found one on eBay for much less than directly ordering from the manufacturer, and just ordered it.
Only to be informed here that I was certainly taken advantage of, and that it will be a poorly made counterfeit which will be painfully uncomfortable...
So, caveat emptor.
Don't panic, I used one for months for a start and didn't find it was painful or that I'd been taken advantage of, you get what you pay for in this world !! So wait till it arrives, I'm sure you'll find it will be a good starting point, not perfect but not useless either !!
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New Zealand
Still having difficulty getting back into 24/7/365 chastity since covid. Very tender old man skin under the scrotum damages easily. Trying an HT Mk5 nub now. Love the fact you can’t pull out of it, hope my skin toughens up.
LockedTexan wrote:I've looked at that one too. I am just not crazy with the 'look' of the cage. It just looks bulky. Ideally I'd like the cage from the 081 and the ring from the 158. Unfortunately they do not attach the same or Id just buy both and try to combine them. I'm going for something as light as feasible.
i did just that, took a solid ring and the receiver for it off one CD, and the A081 cage and Frankensteined them.
The two devices were, I think, different alloys so I ended up using 312 SS filler rod for the weld, which will flow on almost anything ferrous.
I cut the receivers off the cages with a Dremel and a cutoff wheel, no real challenge.
The most difficult part was aligning the receiver to the cage. I tried just clamping the back ring of the cage to a piece of aluminum, and doing the same to the receiver. Held it in place long enough to get a tack.
My mistake was in going on ahead and finishing the weld, rather than checking the alignment first. Ended up with the gap between the base ring and the cage being just slightly too small, just enough to make it uncomfortable for prolonged wear. Cut it apart and do it again. Much better this time.
Grind, polish, grind some more, polish, rinse and repeat.
Try to avoid split hinged ring designs on DHgate. I found them intolerable. Go for a solid ring. And nothing that remotely looks like it is chrome plated. It's hard to judge.
Perhaps let your wife help pick something out that appeals to her
Mine never liked the look of the CBxK line, they looked to "medical"
The HT was received better.
Be prepared to wait for DHgate orders. eBay can be quicker.
I'm very happy with my custom steel devices from MaleChastityNow. I've got a Contender and my wife picked out the MouseTrap for me recently.
It's great that you're starting with the honor system! The honor system can work, at least for me. I spent a majority of 2014 successfully avoiding masturbation at all. I asked if we could continue through 2015, and she let me promise to never masturbate for all of 2015. So far, so good.
Chastity devices can be fun. I find them a treat, and a safety net. I've self locked at wee hours of the morning.
The reason I suggest bringing your wife in on the decision is then it's a shared experience. She'll have some ownership of your comfort. Also, it worked for me just recently. I am grateful at how natural and relaxed she was about it. The acceptance is heartwarming.
Thanks, Peter Rabbit. Everything I've read suggests that one's first device is very rarely the last, so there'll be time to bring my wife in on choosing a model.
Yes, the honor system works well for us. The only difficulty for me is that on several occasions in the year she travels for business and is away for a week at a time. That's when I succumb to temptation... two or three days left before she comes home, all alone with my thoughts...
I'm nervous about not having a spare key available in case of emergency, especially since she travels frequently, but if it's in a sealed envelope, at least she can verify that I haven't accessed it and I'll pay the piper if I have and don't have a good excuse!
I the wife and I have gotten together and agreed to forego the cheap devices all together. It did take a bit of persistence to get her on board with the actual shopping aspect but she made the decision that she wants input as to what she'll be holding the key to. She likes the look of the HTv2. Like you, she thinks the CBx's look too clinical. Not the thought you want to associate playtime with.
The honor system has been going well. I have just not put myself in a position to be alone long enough to be pushed to the point of Punching the clown haha. We shower together now more than ever so she can "keep an eye on me" and she gets her hair washed and we may play a little, and it's turned into a positive thing. We look forward to showers together these days. And as far as acceptance is concerned, heartwarming is an understatement. I expected my plain vanilla wife to be appauled and taken much aback. This was far from the case, she said she actually understood the reasoning behind wanting to try it. My eyes literally welled up when she told me that. I had braced myself for the absolute worst and feel bad about underestimating her acceptance. Nothing but good things have happened for us since the mention of trying chastity, and we don't even have a device, routine, rules etc established yet. It's just a loving atmosphere in our house much more than it has been in the past.
Tqb, the counterfeits are not hard to point out, basically if they cost less than they would from another trusted retailer, they're fakes. They even have the packaging down pretty good so that it looks extremely convincing
LockedTexan wrote:Tqb, the counterfeits are not hard to point out, basically if they cost less than they would from another trusted retailer, they're fakes. They even have the packaging down pretty good so that it looks extremely convincing
I don't know about other makes, but I've reviewed the policy and [wholesale] pricing on the CBX lines from A. L. Enterprises. Basically, if you see one of these for anything less than $130 it's almost assuredly a fake- last I checked not even wholesale purchasers could get a price under that.
04/07/19 "And then I 'punished' you by making you lick my pussy after I let my other 'boy' fuck me." --Mrs. Twisted
LockedTexan wrote:
[...] As far as acceptance is concerned, heartwarming is an understatement. I expected my plain vanilla wife to be appalled and taken much aback. This was far from the case, she said she actually understood the reasoning behind wanting to try it. My eyes literally welled up when she told me that. I had braced myself for the absolute worst and feel bad about underestimating her acceptance. Nothing but good things have happened for us since the mention of trying chastity, and we don't even have a device, routine, rules etc established yet. It's just a loving atmosphere in our house much more than it has been in the past.
Oh wow. That's so awesome. Congratulations! I would like to hear how you explained your reasoning behind wanting to try it.
My wife has been very accepting, but I think she is still truly puzzled but amused. As long as she's having fun, it works. If I get too weird or obsessive or too clingy or moody or whiny... basically, if I "withdraw" emotionally then things stop working. The past 17 months I've worked most on my mental state and self control, and it's really helped "us". She needs a friend and companion with a variety of interests. There's been bumps in the road. Generally, we've settled into a good, fairly normal sex-positive dynamic.
I do wish you the best of luck. I'd love to hear more on how it's working for you as time goes on!
LockedTexan wrote:PR, thanks for the input. Much appreciated. [...] The wife and I have gotten together and agreed to forego the cheap devices all together. It did take a bit of persistence to get her on board with the actual shopping aspect but she made the decision that she wants input as to what she'll be holding the key to. She likes the look of the HTv2. ...
I have two HT *Version 1* devices - one regular and one short cages, with three base rings. Both direct from Switzerland. I forget the colors - one was clear and the other might have been black, I think. I also have a two PA cables from KeptFromHer. While we had fun in it, I probably won't ever go back from my custom steel devices now. I've never thought about selling them until just now, but I can dig those out and clean them up. Things are busy right now, but I might post them for sale next week. I have way too many toys tucked away, it would be good to declutter. But anyway, regardless of whether I decide to sell...
My advice is to keep your eye out for used ones on the various forums... you can get a good deal.
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But to know really how much of a breakthrough this was for us, you'd have to know us. We've been together a number of years. To say her sex drive is lower than mine is an understatement. We tried a number of things to make things interesting again, all to no avail. I was running out of ideas and turned to the Internet. I came across MC almost by accident actually while cruising some tumblr porn of all things. It caught me a bit off guard, but somehow intrigued me. I sort of pursued it further for more info, not liking what I found. Everything I was coming up with in the way of info was way too far in the opposite direction than I was willing to take things. I worded my searches a bit differently and actually got some good info though after just setting my mind to it to find out more. I knew there had to be more to it than whips, chains, and guys wearing women's lingerie. It wasn't until I found a couple seemingly normal blogs that my mind was changed. Information that proved that MC can truly be whatever you want it to be. Mind you, I looked and searched on my own for probably 8 months. I delved into every aspect I could think of and got all the information I could gather and weeded thru it knowing that my wife being the analytical mind she is, would do the same and ask questions. I wanted to have the 'correct' answers. That was just given that I worked up the balls to ask her about trying it.
The more I read the more chastity appealed to me. The thought of putting myself second and her first was an almost alien concept to me I'm ashamed to admit. The thing that kept me attracted to it was he men's complete willingness to do this without question. I knew there had to be some physchological aspect to it that I couldn't really grasp just through text and pictures. I knew at that point I needed to experience it. Basically all I did at that point was to leave my dick alone lol. I tried my damnedest to forget it was even in my pants. I made my first successful week without masturbation and was feeling great about it. I could already feel different emotions presenting theirselves to my brain and thoughts. It was new and strange but familiar all at the same time. Odd. I kept it up, I went out of my way to do just little things for her at first. I brought her home flowers for no reason. Something that was normally reserved for birthdays and occasions. Made the bed, swept up after myself and my muddy boots. Small things, but she noticed. I paid particular attention to her in bed. I've always loved going down on her despite how one sided our relationship seemed before. Oral sex for me was fun, and I looked at it almost as a challenge (playing to my alpha male brain I suppose) I would finish her off and lay with her until she fell asleep, totally ignoring the fact that my hard-on was about to jab straight thru the mattress haha! I eventually started that a couple nights a week. Not all at once for sure. She seemed to notice and want to give me oral, or just have more sex in general. Which was great! But I could tell that after a couple weeks of it she was growing weary of it. Not her fault again, she's never had much in the way of a sex drive and that's ok.
Well, it came time to breach the subject of entering actual make chastity into our marriage. I started off my asking her if she had any sort of sexual fantasy that she ever wanted to act upon. She said she didn't, and just loved spending any time she could with me. I don't know if this was the 'right' answer, or the real answer. Nevertheless, I went on by saying, "Well you are more than aware that I have always been a bit more sexually adventurous in general, I think I'd like to conduct and experiment of sorts if you're up for it." Now, this conversation was happening thru text message since I was out of town overnight with work, and I couldn't contain it in my own mind any longer. I had to go further with it. She frankly told me, "I'll try whatever you want it and only if it doesn't make me uncomfortable." I replied, well I don't know if it will make you uncomfortable or not but I'm going to ask anyway, all you have to do is say no and it will never be brought up again. She agreed and I went on to say, " I'm going to send you an article to read, please don't go melt Google's servers down until you've read it in its entirety, and we talk about it." I sent her an article about a similar 'experiment' that was documented on the gweninlove blog. Which I really enjoy reading. Afterwards, she messaged me back and simply said, "it makes sense." I cannot express in text how relieved I was. I confessed my routine of sneaking off and masturbating and how I thought that was contributing to our issues to a degree. We agreed that after we got a device, that we would go for 60 days as a trial and error period and reconvene. She went on to say how she had noticed the little changes and how it this would expand and reinforce that behavior, she's on board. I expressed some fears of mine and reinforced my position of not wanting to get into the extreme side of MC, and to just use it for more of a 'relationship aid' so to speak, and was very open on leaving the details up to her. She agreed, and said as far as the actual thing "locked onto your junk" as she put it, we'll get one and you keep the key until you're comfortable with the fit, and when I'm ready to turn it over to her. She even playfully joked about where she'd have to hide it once she got the key. Another reassuring surprise.
As of yet, still no device, still no masturbation, still not a whole lot going on other than I've realized again how much I was taking advantage of her to an extent and doing what I can to correct it. So there you have it, it's honestly the condensed version.
Peter Rabbit, if you don't mind, drop me a line if/when you decide to sell that Holy Trainer stuff. I'd definitely be a buyer at the right figure. Let me know. Thanks.
With my wife and me, it was a little bit the other way around. Our sex drives are pretty well matched, but I discovered dominant/submisive relationships in much the same way you discovered chastity, and brought it up with her and we eventually started doing it. Honor-system orgasm control came later. Now experimenting with a device--I ordered an inexpensive counterfeit CB device. It arrived but I'm finding it very hard to find a fit that is comfortable enough for me to continue with... We shall see.