JailBird Quest

[JetMirage]

Just another quick question... Let's say I've found the perfect sizing for my CB6000. Will those exact settings be okay for the jailbird, or will the fact that the base ring is thicker make it so that I might need a different size gap?

[thumper]

In my experience, what I needed in metal was smaller than plastic. The plastic is grippier, I think, and the device is lighter. The steel is less grippy and is holding up a heavier thing. I was in the 45mm CB6K ring and have settled quite nicely into a 40mm ring on my Steelheart. That said, be careful that the gap between the bottom of the cage and the ring isn't too small. On my JB, it is.

[wantshiny]

Be aware that because the Jailbird oval ring is quite a bit less oval than the CB6000 ring hence the effective space inside the ring is less on the CB6K, so you might want to get a slightly smaller ring on the jailbird, or at least this is what I did but I am still waiting for mine to show up so i can't say if the theory worked or not.

[Atone]

1. Sizing

Take your time and really figure out how small you should get. Almost everyone that has gone to a smaller device has said that it is more comfortable than the larger. I started with a CB-3000 and I could barely fit in it. Now I wear a jailbird that is 1 1/8" diameter and 2 1/4" long and I have no problem getting it on. I think I could go 1/4" shorter. And listen to Dev when she says "get over it, you're smaller than you think you are", that seems to hold up as true.

2. Anti Pull-Out Option

If you like to play with pain definitely get the anti pull out option and an assortment of pins. I like to use them for a couple of days and then it gets to be too much. If my wife would "punish" me with them it would be great but that really isn't her thing so they don't get used as much as I would like.

3. Other Options

You can get the post welded to the top of the base ring which moves the cage up a bit. This helps with the problem that thumper describes in his response. If you look at the pictures on his blog you can see what he is talking about. Mine isn't that extreme but it is something to consider. I might send mine back to have the post moved.

I would get the security screw option. I have it on all of mine and like it a lot. Decreases weight and bulk. You can use a regular lock with it if you want. If you ask him to he can add an additional hole for a plastic security lock if you want a little more accountability. I don't think he charged me for doing that on mine but I am on his frequent flyer program maybe that is one of the perks.

He will try to do pretty much anything you ask him to. Most of the things I have asked about he had already thought of and actually had a way to do it that would work. I have a cage that has different size rings at the opening vs. the head end. It gives me just a little extra room at the head.

My experience with the base ring is the same as thumpers. Actually he gave the advice when I bought my first jailbird. On the CB-3000 I used the 1 7/8" base ring, on the jailbirds (and Pet Trap) I use a 1 3/4" base ring.

Just another quick question... Let's say I've found the perfect sizing for my CB6000. Will those exact settings be okay for the jailbird, or will the fact that the base ring is thicker make it so that I might need a different size gap?

The problem, as I see it, is that all these devices have different ways of setting and / or measuring the gap. The gap between the rings is only part of the equation. The difference between the size of the rings also plays a role as does the offset at the top. I think the MM devices are the only ones where the cage is offset down on the base ring. This makes for a smaller gap.

-A

[JetMirage]

Awesome! Thanks for all the help everyone! I think the fact that I have so many options is one of the reasons making a definate decision is so difficult. I think I'm going to get the post mounted on top of the ring to help with the gap. As for length... I'm not 100% sure. Whenever I'm out of my cage and flacid I measure exactly 3 inches or a little more at times, but when I'm in my CB6000 it looks like I tend to be maybe a quarter inch from the end. I think being able to get different sized rings for the cage will really help me with picking the cage diameter. The base of my member when flacid is about the same as the 6000, but its much fatter near the front and I have a lot of extra skin that would squeeze through the bars, so I'm thinking about making the front ring 1 1/2 inch, or maybe a half step below.
So I think I more or less have my sizing options for the cage figured out.
For the base ring I'm thinking 1 7/8, because in my CB6000 it is quite snug, and I probably wouldn't mind just a little extra room... besides, I can always get a smaller size ring made.

Once again.. thank you for all your help! I think I'll save the rest of my nitty-gritty questions for thw owner of MM.

[Atone]

I think being able to get different sized rings for the cage will really help me with picking the cage diameter.

You need to talk to him about this, not all combinations are possible. The shorter the cage the closer the two rings need to be to the same dimension. He may have some advice on what may or may not work well and what other issues may come up.

I have two cages that are exactly the same except the one has a 1/8" larger ring near the head. I am wearing that one since last night and it feels like wearing a pair of baggy pants. I wouldn't have thought it would feel that much different but it does.

and I probably wouldn't mind just a little extra room..

I feel differently and really didn't like the extra room on the larger cage that I have. I actually wish I had ordered new rings with the replacement for that one so I could sell it. I didn't realize at the time that I would probably never wear it again. Now I can't really sell it because I still use the base rings.

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[JetMirage]

Just got a response from MM. It seems as though I can only get the post mounted on top of the ring is the base ring and the ring of the cage are within 1/4" of size. Unfortunately, there is no way I can make that work. My base ring would have to go down two full sizes to even make that possible, and there's no way I can make that work .
And as for the extra room near the head... I have a lot of extra skin further down on my penis, and if the cage is too tight down there I'm concerned about all that excess skin squeezing through the bars and being a pinching hazard.

[thumper]

Just got a response from MM. It seems as though I can only get the post mounted on top of the ring is the base ring and the ring of the cage are within 1/4" of size.

Huh. Did he say *why*? Sitting here thinking about it, I can't imagine why that would be the case.

[wishful4]

Agree with Thumper. That makes no sense. Can you post his exact response? Maybe he misunderstood your request. He told me it could be done and at no extra charge. Don't know of anyone I've read about that the base ring and cage measurement is within 1/4 inch. That would be a deal breaker for me, as well!!

[JetMirage]

"The locking post depends on the inside diameter and the base ring. If they are within 1/4" of one another then you may go with the post on top. But if they are over 1/4" then the post needs to be on the side of the ring. The idea is to have the gap uniformed all the way around."