But what do I get out of this?

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This is a very interesting post and series of comments. It brings up a wide range of topics dealing with chastity as well as kinkiness, and more importantly roles in a relationship.

I completely understand where WonderingWife if coming from, and understand her frustration. I do think she's being pushed into something by her husband that she's not comfortable with.

Personally, I've always been the more kinky partner in my long-term relationships (I've been married twice). The idea of being dominated, controlled, put in chastity, etc. is a common theme with me. As we know in this forum, it doesn't matter why.

Certainly, I've asked my partner to engage in many different related activities. Yes, they were my fantasies. In my case, the women simply weren't into these kinds of things. And I don't think the "try it you'll like it" idea is valid. I personally don't believe in forcing a women to do anything sexually, or even putting pressure on her.

In the end, we compromised. My partners knew that being controlled turned me on -- so they'd tell me what to do in bed sometimes. Or told me I wasn't allowed to cum a few times (though in the end, they let me :) Once and a while, she'd tie me up with some silk scarves (her choice). It was great knowing that she was trying to please me.

And I did the same for her fantasies which were largely about outdoor sex.
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Asking for my wife/KH. What to do about weak erections? My wife and I have been playing with chastity for a little while now. Her biggest objection is my erection not being as strong after being locked away for a week or so. I do still get blood flowing there when trying to get erect in the cage so I know I can have an erection no problem. Just when she wants sex my penis is not as firm as it could be and the orgasm come really quick. That part I understand why I’m coming so quickly. The weak erection not so much… anyone over come this issue? Ideas on how to avoid this and when she wants to let me out she can enjoy her cock the way she wants to.
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Jsin wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 4:04 pm Asking for my wife/KH. What to do about weak erections? My wife and I have been playing with chastity for a little while now. Her biggest objection is my erection not being as strong after being locked away for a week or so. I do still get blood flowing there when trying to get erect in the cage so I know I can have an erection no problem. Just when she wants sex my penis is not as firm as it could be and the orgasm come really quick. That part I understand why I’m coming so quickly. The weak erection not so much… anyone over come this issue? Ideas on how to avoid this and when she wants to let me out she can enjoy her cock the way she wants to.
If you don't have 'weak' erections normally, you shouldn't have an issue after being caged either. If anything, mine are firmer after being caged.

Maybe you should look into Cialis or Viagra?
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Welcome to the forum,
I have heard over the years on this forum, that, that there are many ways to do Chastity.
And many ways to introduce it.
I did what your husband did. I bought a device without her knowledge. It was way too big. But At that special time when I thought was good. I was all excited to jump into this fantasy I had in my mind..,Sprang it on her.
A perfect failure...
She also knows I enjoy being tightly wrapped or tied up. She will not play with bondage either. She has seen too much prior to our marriage and won’t go there.
She doesn’t mind me playing solo with my chastity thing , self bondage or masturbation.
She sees very little point to the chastity thing.
So.. In between our love making, I wear a device. I do not want to masturbate or even have an erection without her present. It is my offering of ,”for you only “ ... and she knows it is a game I play by myself...in that I could easily get off with a vibrator...in 20-30 seconds.. but thats not my desire or intent .I want to keep all my sexual energy for her.
It comes off when we agree sex is going to happen...as we both love piv..then the next morning.,, I will relock.
She is a perfectly lovely vanilla wife. I do not want to try and pressure her into something she does not want to do..so, I do it for me..
she won’t tie me up either,. I have to figure that out on my own.
It doesn’t change my brains desires for these things. She knows there are 2 main topics that keep coming around, bondage and chastity. Neither gain any traction,, ever.. so ..
For me, if I want to engage in either ,I do it on my own.
The problem comes when we talk about these things., she feels that somehow something is wrong with her. She feels that I shouldn’t want or need to be bound. And a chastity device is a waste of money. ...Because I persist in doing what I desire alone apart from her ,, she feels pressure of inadequacy as a wife..so I stop for a while, but eventually cycle back around to it.. I’m interested in it.. she says .. oh, that chastity thing again..She has no desire to control my orgasms, loves to bring me over the edge,..and sees no point in denial on any level.
We both wish there was a common ground. I love her dearly and same for her.,at times I wonder if something is off with me in desiring these things.
I share this to say, 1. I wish I could start over, include her in every thought I had about these desires. Learn and do together maybe ,,or learn to do without..And 2. To say you are not alone in having a husband who is awkward in expressing his desires for various kink. Not everyone is living the “Chastity Dream”
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Chastityat60 wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:30 pm Welcome to the forum,
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by wonderingwife » Thu May 02, 2013 7:19 pm
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Oops, sorry bout that🤷‍♂️Old guy,,
Great thread though!
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Excellent thread with a lot of good perspectives in here.
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Tom Allen wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:37 pm Excellent thread with a lot of good perspectives in here.
I am glad its been revived. And, I miss WW's perspective. Wish she had stayed active for more than a couple of months.
I was surprised to find comments from ME in this thread. Guess I have been a lurker for a very long time.
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First off, I’ll admit, I did not read this thread in its entirety yet, I am a little pressed for time this evening. I made the same mistake that chastityat60 made a began reading it thinking it was a recent thread, and then found the date on page 4 and skipped to the end.

In the interest of not hijacking another thread nor creating an unnecessary new thread, I would like to ask for other members opinions on a concern of mine.

TLDR: How to keep from topping from the bottom when your significant other told you from the very beginning that, while she was more than willing, she may need help being a dominant/keyholder?

Backstory (More info in journey post, linked in signature):

My wife didn’t say no to being a keyholder when I introduced it to her a while back, but due to poor fitment and other things, it never took off. Roughly a month ago, she agreed to give it a serious try. I told her how important it was to me that she really treat this as a serious responsibility, and she has made sure to devote a tremendous effort into doing just that. It has really been amazing, and she has really shown how much she cares about me over the past few weeks. The original agreement was for a trial period until we went on a short trip we have planned for this upcoming weekend; the trip was a birthday present to me from her, and honestly probably the most meaningful gift she has gotten me in quite a while due to the thought I know she put into it! When we started, we laid out a few basic rules/agreements, and said that we would revisit and communicate more on it during/after the trip.

I have asked her a few times in the past few days whether or not she felt as if she wanted to keep going after this weekend. So far, she has said that she’ll tell me while we’re away (so hot because, before, she would never be able to keep a secret from me because she is typically not that type of person, I love the anticipation). The reason I first came up with and introduced this to her a few years ago, was that I realized I had a chronic masturbation issue, along with porn viewing, which were starting to become problems, and I felt as if they were affecting our relationship. After it didn’t really take off and go anywhere, I did not share this with her. About a week after her most recent willingness to treat this as a responsibility, once I saw how she was doing just that; I shared my issues with her. She was more forgiving of it than I could have ever asked for, and I owe her a tremendous amount of respect and dignity for that.

All of this leads me to the question I am having trouble answering from myself. How do I know if I am topping from the bottom? Also, if I feel as if I am, what can I do to help train myself not to?

No matter whether she chooses to continue this or not, I want to return the favor of her giving this an honest try with showing her respect and dignity. I realize that this question sounds sort of “duh” so while trying to word vomit as little as possible, I’ll give some back story as to why it is so hard for me. She told me when we first got started that she may completely forget either to lock, or to unlock me from time to time. In her words, she tends to go through life “existing” and not really paying a lot of attention to her surroundings, and she’s happy like that! :lol: (I on the other hand am OCD and hyper aware of what is going on around me) From the beginning, she told me to feel free to remind her if I had been wearing it too long and she hadn’t mentioned it, or if she forgot to use it, and I felt as if I needed to wear it to feel like I was getting attention from her. Secondly, going from 1 (minimum) to 2 (many days) orgasms per day down to 1 (sometimes ruined, she is learning those. Not a pro yet because I still get some pleasure and “mood drop” but it’s certainly not a full one!) every few days is HARD. I have moments of weakness if she doesn’t have me locked and she isn’t around. So far I’ve been able to refrain from pleasuring myself, but I don’t know that I can keep that up in the future. I feel like the past week or so, I have really been asking too much of her and making way too many requests. Also though, in my defense, Aunt Flow came to visit and she felt like shit and didn’t feel like going above and beyond. Any help or advice would be appreciated, and if you feel so moved, feel free to address her, she knows I post here, and sometimes has found my posts and read them. If you do, I will make sure to share them with her. I have suggested her creating an account, but I’m not sure she is ready to do so.

Finally, if I have broken a protocol by hacking this thread, please feel free to delete/move post or whatever you need to do…
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I actually find the people that say "dont top from the bottom" annoying. Not really though because those who say that (From what I see) are usually alpha women that NEED NO HELP dominating a guy especially if they ask for it. In MY case. Chastity was my idea. I got the cage. I messed with it by myself. I liked it .. a LOT. my wife is super vanilla has ZERO idea what chastity was other than the silliness you see on movies or TV. I sheepishly presented this she is like.. ok Ill try.. She did.. she noticed she LIKED the power and the lack of sexual pressure because now it was on HER terms. Over time I through "Communication" told her what I like.. and what I dont like.

As a for instance. I havent gone down on my wife in 3-4 years. WE talked through the why's (Im older and sometimes I have gas and I hate that feeling) I told her.. ffs tell me.. I get up.. let er rip.. Ill come back in 30 seconds. She is like.. "Ok.. i can try that" then I said to her. You know what I would really like. Is if you forced me to go down on you with my cage on. Then after you cum. You say. "Ok I am done. You can leave now"

There are people that would think their situation applies to me and they would tell me "You are topping from the bottom"

Yea.. well in my situation I am communicating which there is nothing wrong with that.

Last night.. first time in years. She put on some lingerie.. laid back and said "Eat my pussy" So I did. It was awesome.

Had I not "Topped from the bottom" that would never occur to her to do that.

I see a change in my wife. She is getting these ideas. She is hungering for them (where she never has before) There is a time when I wont have to say a thing. where she knows what SHE likes and she knows what she can tease me with.

I can tell you all this is developing fast. There has already been times where she told me to shut up and gave me instructions.

here is another tip I learned her. Buy her a 24" box chain and put your key on it. If she wears your key she will have a constant reminder of it. Maybe she likes it .. maybe she doesnt, it is her choice. Walked into the bathroom yesterday afternoon. Her body was covered with Soap.. key on a necklace right between her soapy breasts. She chuckled at how "Hungry " I looked.

Dunno. I think in certain relationships you have to "top from the bottom" until you dont.. Im approaching the point where Ive said enough and now we both can have fun being under her control.

That is how I see it. Every relationship is different. No one knows you and her better than you.

Good luck.. sounds like you got a wife like mine and you are going to be posting crazy stories soon.
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