Metal version of Holy Trainer or Rikers?

[zorglub]

Wouldn't it have been easier just to type out a name or contact instead of writing a condescending and sarcastic answer?

Nothing like making a new member feel welcome and want to post more.... wow

I am fairly new to this board (but not to chastity) and in my lurking here, I have already noted that there are a couple of members who tend to display a bit of elitist attitude and prefer to belittle rather than help or just hold their sharp tongue in check. Mind you. that isn't the majority, so there's hope...

I have read through a lot of the threads here, and while there are many references to the well-know custom-sized metal device manufacturers, I do not recall a mention of them accepting to manufacture a metal device based on one that is not part of their product line. So suggesting to the OP to look through existing threads is misleading.

I also doubt the well-known companies would want to engage in copying the HT design:
- They could run into intellectual property issues (although that seems to be no big deal for fly-by-night, no-name, *cough* Chinese *cough operations, but those don't do custom anyway)
- Slavishly building a stainless steel replica of a plastic device will typically yield an uncomfortable contraption, if only because of considerable weight, so the design will have to be significantly altered.

I can sympathize with the OP's bias towards the Holy Trainer. After my first (CB6000s), I have enjoyed the HT. I even have two of those! But now I have tried a Mature Metal Watchful Mistress and more recently a Male Chastity Now Contender, and there is no going back (except for air travel).

If money is not a big issue (considering that a custom build like you originally requested would very likely run close to the price of a Lori, e.g. $600-$800), I would highly recommend trying an MCN Contender. It will run you less than $300 and MCN's turnaround times are just a couple of days (not months like most of the others). Before that though, either order the measuring-ring set from Mature Metal, or get some plain rings in a hardware store, made from 1/4" steel, so you can get the sizing right for both base ring and tube. The thick and very shaped HT ring is not a good basis for sizing a metal one.

Regarding the lock clanking: many metal devices don't do that because either the padlock sits sideways, or they use integrated security screws (or Burg Wachter lock cylinders like in the HT2). Note that MCN sells a security-screw-based mini-padlock that is prettier than the regular keyed ones and its hasp is thin enough to allow it to be placed on the axis of the tube.

[Snowman]

I am not looking for another type...I am looking for info on someone or a company that may custom build me a metal version of the HT.

I'm not so sure that is going to happen for you.

How about you try contacting some of the custom metal chastity device companies directly and inquire, and while you are at it, try the people that make the HT and see if they are planning on producing one or could they make a suggestion.

If you didn't want to check out some of the threads here under 'Devices', as TM suggested, how about you try doing this: https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=c ... %20devices

There, spoon fed.

Holy crap.

I already contacted HT and they have no plans on making a metal version. Mature metal never replied.

Hence looking for a custom.

Drop your self righteous attitude. Geez.think this is my first time on a forum!? I already used the ever so popular search function and contacted existing manufacturers BEFORE I posted here.

[peter_rabbit]

Steelwerks Extreme might be able to fashion a similar enclosed anatomically shaped device out of titanium. That will cost you a lot.

I've never seen rings in that uniquely anatomical shape in metal. It's always been rings.

What about the Holy Trainer Version 1 do you like?
You mentioned the lock. That's easy.

Is it the ring or the feeling of being enclosed? I assume you have a solid color because you won't find transparent metal (at least not until Scotty time travels back to leak us transparent aluminum tech!)

The only options to make that ring would be machining a large hunk of metal down to shape, or 3D printing.
So let me assume that's cost prohibitive.

To get what you want you won't find a "metal" version like the CB3k knockoff out there.
So the answer is no. Do scour the DHgate site to see what they come up with. New designs Pop up from time to time. Most are just copies, unfortunately for the U.S. Custom manufacturers.

The weight of a metal device with the same dimensions of the HT will be heavier.
That will affect the base ring size somewhat, as things will drag down more.

I like going to Male-Essentials.net for their very reasonably priced cock ring sets.
You can get metal, and not red plastic. I find the friction of metal and weight is quite different - In a good way.

For completely enclosed designs the Steelworxx Steelheart is a popular option, and I think it's standard design includes just a lock for cheaper. It's a constant diameter inside, so the feel is different. The HT flares out around the head. I found the HT too narrow around the shaft root anyway.

You can get anatomical rings from Steelworks. So that's a match. The anatomical fit with a ring bending back along the bottom is unnecessary for me. I like a smaller ball gap anyway as I found I'd slip through the wider gap. I've got one wiley nut that is an escape artist. I prefer a wider base ring to ensure blood flow anyway.

I will second the recommendation for a Contender. It's an open design, It is 250$ You're not looking for the lock upgrades - you like the padlock. I adore the elegant high security system though, do check it out.

Zorglub's experience matches my own. I find MaleChastityNow very prompt and responsive. I'm a repeat customer and have had things arrive within a week.

The open designs are popular in steel because of the reduced weight and ease of cleaning. There won't be walls to press against. I have a custom Contender (actually a prototype) that has a vertical plate to shield me more - my review is on this forum.

Good luck!
TLDR: no one has made a metal HT yet, like the CB line. Your best bet is custom at this time.

[TwistedMister]

I already used the ever so popular search function and contacted existing manufacturers BEFORE I posted here.

Then you should have said so in the first place. Existing custom makers are by far the best bet, as it is highly unlikely that anyone else can or will do what you want, and all that most of us could do would be to go through the forum and compile a list of said makers, which is what it appeared to be that you wanted.

Not mentioning that little tidbit right off is a lack of communication on your part and/or a lack of respect for the time and efforts of others who would have merely been repeating what you [now] claim you have already done. All that we 'know' about you is what you have told us, which as of now (and particularly with only three posts to your name when you asked the question), isn't very much. We have/had no way of knowing what, if any, efforts you had already made *unless* you tell us. *Not* telling us puts us in the position of either wasting our time duplicating your efforts or believing that you had made none and expected others to do something that you could easily do yourself.

think this is my first time on a forum!?

Given the communication issue, it certainly appears that way.

Wouldn't it have been easier just to type out a name or contact instead of writing a condescending and sarcastic answer?

No. That would have entailed searching through the forums and compiling a list, which you could (and now claim to) have done yourself.

Nothing like making a new member feel welcome and want to post more.... wow

It is not our 'job' to kowtow and cater to your need for acceptance or to cause you to "want to post more." No one here has any duty to do so. This forum is available as a resource but it is not established to 'beg' for members and cajole them into participating. The onus is on new members to 'get the lay of the land'; be polite, respectful and considerate of the time and efforts of the established membership (who are not paid to contribute them), and to demonstrate sincerity in their quests/requests for assistance and acceptance into the group. As experienced forum participants know, this has been the expected and polite protocol since the days of usenet, and indeed, expected behavior in both the human and animal kingdoms since the dawn of existence on this planet for outsiders seeking membership in an established grouping.

I am fairly new to this board (but not to chastity) and in my lurking here, I have already noted that there are a couple of members who tend to display a bit of elitist attitude and prefer to belittle rather than help or just hold their sharp tongue in check. Mind you. that isn't the majority, so there's hope...

Most of us sincerely want to help those who are sincere in their quests for knowledge and information, and most of us, including myself, are willing to bend over backwards to do so for those who demonstrate their own sincerity. That should be more than obvious to anyone who spends sufficient time perusing the various threads. If some members tongues are a little 'sharp' it is mostly due to the numbers of posers, fakers, liars and fantasists who have passed through here; most of us have little time for such, and feel no need or desire to pander to them. Judgements are certainly made, based on the behavior of the new participant. Individuals are responded to based on the manner in which they present themselves initially, which common sense says should be expected as this is generally the way of real life both online and offline, and it is *their* responsibility to present themselves in the proper manner, not ours to somehow (psychically?) determine that they should be viewed in any way other than that in which they present/represent themselves. I doubt that there are many here with the time or inclination to coddle*** those who are thin-skinned and easily offended, like little children, this is an adult forum and adult behavior is expected. It is up to the new member to ingratiate himself and conform to the expectations of the established group, not the other way around...and, as an observation, I might suggest that offering insults with one's third post is probably not the best way to do that.

***(I was going to suggest another site might be more suitable for those seeking such coddling and having a predilection for sissification, but it would appear that that site is, or is rapidly becoming, defunct. Note: I'm not denigrating those whose kink is sissification, if that is one's 'thing', that's fine, but this is not a fantasy/role-play site where such 'in-character' participation is promoted. If that is one's desire, it will have to be found elsewhere.)

[locked4her55]

Thanks Twisted. I was planning my response but you have so eloquently nailed it again, as usual.

I have lived by a motto of "treat people the way you would want to be treated" but I do not have the time or inclination to help those who are unwilling to help themselves. Providing such 'key' information in the beginning would have been very helpful rather than the 'do you think I'm stupid' response we received back.

Snowman, I hope you are able to achieve the chastity device you seek.

[Tom Allen]

I am fairly new to this board (but not to chastity) and in my lurking here, I have already noted that there are a couple of members who tend to display a bit of elitist attitude and prefer to belittle rather than help or just hold their sharp tongue in check. Mind you. that isn't the majority, so there's hope...

As the head mod, I can see this on both sides. I don't think the attitude that you see is elitist, so much as jaded. Most of the regulars have come here because they are tired of the other boards - or never used them in the first place - because we work hard to make sure that the discussions here stay relatively sane and reality-based. What I do see are some members (including me once in a while), becoming frustrated with newer members who think that this board is a continuation of the old Yahoo groups.

And on the mod end, we *still* have dozens of people who create an account and immediately do something that we ask you not to do - in requests that are right in the easily found rules posted in both the stickies at the tops of the forums, and in the red links at the top of each page. I can't tell you how often we delete inappropriate pictures and avatars, or links to self-locking time site, or ads, or professional dommes/keyholders, or posts that have nothing to do with chastity. Admittedly, sometimes even the patient and understanding mods start getting a little snippy after a several week run of this.

So let's all take a step back from this, take a breath, and let's start over.