Newbie Help

[LockedVTX]

OK, I'm a longtime member of the D/s community, but I'm very, very new to chastity. Looking for a little help/advice on my current situation.

I currently own the CB6000. I'll start there.

My wife/Mistress, of course, is really hip to this chastity idea, but we are realists. We want to do this right, but still push my boundaries, etc.

It's taken me a while to find the right spacer/ring combination that allows this device to fit in such a way where I cannot escape from the back of it. I do know that I'm supposed to "be good" and not escape just because Mistress wouldn't want me to, but I am a big fan of just KNOWING that I can't escape it, as is Mistress. Now, of course, I do realize that any device is escapable with the right set of wire cutters and such, but I'm talking about not being able to escape this device without a key or cutting off the lock, if you will. (Or, for the love of pete, risking myself to saw through the plastic).

Now, here's where the rub is. That particular setup hurts me to some extent. I don't mind enduring some pain for Mistress, but of course, safety is paramount, and she doesn't want me risking my health. I don't either. I had a GREAT setup on a very confortable ring size while using the (I forget the name of it, but it's an attachment you can buy for the CB6000 that goes inside of it. KDG or something like that) thing, but the one of those that really keeps me from escaping doesn't STOP my urine flow, but it kinda makes it uncomfortable to pee. So, we figured that wasn't healthy and decided to try a smaller ring size, which is where I am, now.

The pain that makes me experience is around the base of my scrotum, more or less. It "puffs" my "boys" out pretty good, but they maintain decent color (unless I get excited, and then they'll turn a couple of shades of blue) and my penis itself is actually pretty comfortable inside this setup. It's just hard to focus on THAT when the surrounding area hurts a fairly good deal.

I don't THINK that the pain could cause any longterm issues, as everything seems to maintain proper color and function, but I'm not 100% sure of that, which is why I'm here.

My questions are as follows, now that I've bored everyone with the backstory.

1. If this pain is indeed just that...pain...can I expect that I'll eventually "just get used to it"?

2. Will my body adjust to this device and eventually "loosen up" a little bit, at least to the point where it becomes somewhat comfortable?

3. If I go back to the setup that has the extra attachment, is an "uncomfortable" urine flow going to hurt me?

4. Since I'm new to this, is it appropriate, for lack of a better word, to "break me in"? Meaning, don't wear it all the time, but wear it enough to let my body adjust? Or SHOULD I wear it all the time to accomplish this.

Not that I fault anyone for thinking differently than I would, but while Mistress wants me locked up with this thing, she doesn't see me wearing this every day for a year without release or anything like that. I know that some people do that, and that's admirable, but I don't KNOW that we will take that route. We may, but that's not Her vision at this point.

An answer to those questions along with ANY advice you may have is very, very appreciated, and I look forward to your responses!

[LockedVTX]

Bump. Any advice is great, please!

[TwistedMister]

I am a big fan of just KNOWING that I can't escape it, as is Mistress. Now, of course, I do realize that any device is escapable with the right set of wire cutters and such, but I'm talking about not being able to escape this device without a key or cutting off the lock, if you will. (Or, for the love of pete, risking myself to saw through the plastic).

Your thoughts are right in line with mine. I am most attracted to the situation of knowing that I *CAN'T* escape, rather than won't, or just 'pretending'.

Unfortunately, this can be somewhat of a problem for those of us who appreciate the difference between "can't" and "won't".

I tried the insert you mentioned, but the only one that proved to be escape-proof also proved to be almost impossible to remove at all- it took several hours of effort and at one point I was almost certain that I was going to have to find a way to *cut* it off. Eventually I was able to get it off with only minor injury (and moderate pain...not the 'good' kind). So, completely unacceptable to me and a waste of money.

So, on to your questions-

With time you may be able to become accustomed to smaller ring sizes and tolerate them better, but some level of discomfort may still be experienced. I have been doing this for a rather long time and still have not found the 'perfect' combination. I have recently been experimenting with the "Points of Intrigue" but the results are not yet conclusive.

I have my doubts that the CB-X line can achieve the condition that we desire, but it is a good starting point. You will probably be able to reduce the ring size over time by switching to a smaller ring for short periods, and gradually extending the length of those periods. You seem to be intelligent enough that I don't need to go into a detailed description of the process (though, if you do want one, it has been described by myself and others in several posts, you'll have to do a bit of searching to find them).

There are some Stainless Steel devices that enhance comfort, and may be a good move after becoming familiar with yourself and what to expect by experience with the CB-x device, but these also have some issues for me (and probably you as well). One issue is that many have solid rings, and a solid ring that I can get into, I can also get out of- not acceptable for me. There are some devices with urethral inserts that my solve the problem but I have not yet had the chance to experiment with them...there is also the question of infection from an insert- at least one person has reported getting a UTI and has given the insert as the cause but it has not been adequately proven (in my mind) to be so. I do intend to conduct experiments when I get the opportunity.

In my opinion, the 'Holy Grail' for us will be a metal (SS and/or Titanium) of a design similar to the CB-x line, but with a wide (3/4" to 1"?) flat (rounded edges) base ring that incorporates a hinge that is machined to very close tolerances (to prevent the pinching that has been noted with other designs). It would have the same pin design as the CB-x line, with the ability to incorporate inserts such as the POI and a smooth, blunted insert of similar shape (but no teeth) that would restrict the entrance to the cage portion of the device (and, unlike the KSD, would be easily removable simply by disengaging the pins).

I think that, in the sizes that are small enough to prevent escape, the currently available main-ring designs present such a small surface area that they are too painful to use. In my opinion, a wider, flatter ring with rounded edges would distribute the pressure over a wider area and would alleviate much or all of the pain associated with the current crop of designs. I think a hinged design is necessary- anything without a hinge that you can push into, you can likewise pull out of.

[LockedVTX]

Thanks for the reply!

Sounds like we have very similar experiences with this. I already know that I can't go with a steel or "fixed ring" device. If I can get myself into it, I can get myself out of it, just as you say. I have a crappy device that is made of (neoprene?) but it is somewhat pliable. Heck, I don't even have to take that one off to get off inside of it. The CB6000 is probably good for my Mistress and I because we know this isn't a long term thing. (And by long term, I mean at long term intervals without release or being removed from it).

What I envision at the current moment, upon Mistress' approval, is to "endure" the pain during the day with this thing so that I can maybe stretch or loosen my skin enough to be more comfortable with this, and then at night, if Mistress still needs to keep me in some sort of chastity, she can maybe achieve that with more conventional bondage. (Keeping me bound in such a position where I can't get my hands to my penis, I assume, but perhaps other methods are out there, and I'd love to hear about them)

I wouldn't say I "enjoy" chastity, but I do say I enjoy what it does to me, and how it makes me act towards Mistress.